Rolling on neutral from any gear, downhill, etc.

[tinkerbell]

even the law said, when you are stopping either on a red light or not. its best to put into first gear. just in case someone hit you from the back and doesn't let your car roll into the middle of the street.

i do not believe there is a law that states you must NOT put it in neutral whilst stationary.

however, if i DO put my car in neutral at lights, i have the handbrake up.

[blk_shadow]

i do not believe there is a law that states you must NOT put it in neutral whilst stationary.

however, if i DO put my car in neutral at lights, i have the handbrake up.

no you don't have to. that's why i said, "the law said its best to put in to first gear"

[bennjamin]

its common sense. Leave your car in GEAR while driving in ALL situations.

[dsp26]

been covered before. exact people in this thread giving warnings are the same as the ones before.. heed them...

to the original thread poster....

if an animal or pedestrian suddenly jumps on the road and you swerve to avoid them while in nuetral.... post back here and tell us what happened if you live to tell the tale...

all of you who do it are fools, i pity you.. you should go back to yr7 and study some basic physics.. specifically inertia.

[dsp26]

i do not believe there is a law that states you must NOT put it in neutral whilst stationary.

however, if i DO put my car in neutral at lights, i have the handbrake up.

thats right, it ain't a law but a tip/techinique provided in the Ls books.

[tinkerbell]

L's book does not equal LAW...

blk shadow - if you wanna refer to the "law said something" - use the Australian Road Rules:

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregul...ds/pts1-21.pdf

[cristian]

been covered before. exact people in this thread giving warnings are the same as the ones before.. heed them...

to the original thread poster....

if an animal or pedestrian suddenly jumps on the road and you swerve to avoid them while in nuetral.... post back here and tell us what happened if you live to tell the tale...

all of you who do it are fools, i pity you.. you should go back to yr7 and study some basic physics.. specifically inertia.

damn, beat me to it...i remember u tellin me this when i borrowed ur old car and driving to ur work...
anywayz, avoiding an unsuspected obstacle can have horrendous consequences due to the pendulum effect a car has during sharp, jolty cornering when in neutral...
being in gear dictates ur car's transfer of weight when in gear...specially in emergency circumstances where ur reactions would be to swerve around an obstacle...apart from the car's weight transferring from left to right, u've also got the gear moving the weight to move laterally...which dampens the shift of weight...
in laymans terms...
grab a rectangle block, and imagine that its the car...now, try to tip it on its side...and compare that to the amount of effort it takes to tip it forward...
the point of that was not to prove cars will tip forward, but the comparison of amount of force it takes to move the car side to side, compared to the force to move it back n forth...

[dsp26]

that one line is well put.. just cbf explaining it again but you worded it nicely.

remember that downhill twards the roundabout in castle hill towards pennat hills... i provoked it on wet road in my mazda ages ago just to see how severe the effect was... and it was dangerous... a damn stupid experiment at that...

damn, beat me to it...i remember u tellin me this when i borrowed ur old car and driving to ur work...
anywayz, avoiding an unsuspected obstacle can have horrendous consequences due to the pendulum effect a car has during sharp, jolty cornering when in neutral...
being in gear dictates ur car's transfer of weight when in gear...specially in emergency circumstances where ur reactions would be to swerve around an obstacle...apart from the car's weight transferring from left to right, u've also got the gear moving the weight to move laterally...which dampens the shift of weight...
in laymans terms...
grab a rectangle block, and imagine that its the car...now, try to tip it on its side...and compare that to the amount of effort it takes to tip it forward...
the point of that was not to prove cars will tip forward, but the comparison of amount of force it takes to move the car side to side, compared to the force to move it back n forth...

[pop]

Thanks guys. You've possibly saved a fellow man's life

[cristian]

AAMI is doing a great job with giving people incentives as discount on insurance if they take a defensive driving course...a friend of mine (under 25) did it a few months back and gets like 15% off...

they teach these techniques on that course plus a lot more simple things that wouldn't really come to mind when ur behind the wheel...
e.g. he was tellin me about debris in the car causes just as much, or aybe more damage during a car crash than the crash itself...a baby was killed, even though it was strapped to an approved capsule, by a mobile phone sitting on the dash and went flying hitting the toddler on the head...

[tinkerbell]

guys, girls, everyone,

for more discussion and advice on road safety - i feel this site is EXCELLENT:

http://www.crashprevention.com.au/index.html

even just the basics - are YOU a safe driver?

see here: http://www.crashprevention.com.au/sa...fe_driver.html

[chilli]

i thought being in neutral doesnt slow you down, doesnt it cause the car to roll more freely in comparison to being in gear? [refering to first post]

im probably wrong..
=p