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hey Mr
what a good thread here..........really worth looking from the begining till the last ...and now still going...
u give a affordable option for those D16 here which dont really want to go the B route..(i wish i still have my EK sedan) then i will 100% do the same to it
...i am waiting for ur project finish and maybe i will start doing one again
very tempting...and seriously...great work
Go WOMBAT!!!!!!!!!!
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hey just wondering is tim's car still got a/c and P/S?
I've noted that he's used a T3 manifold with a plugged up waste gate and a conversion adaptor plate.
Nice going i was gonna do something like that before, its good to see the idea would have actually worked.
Last edited by Limbo; 13-12-2007 at 11:11 PM.
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 Originally Posted by Limbo
hey just wondering is tim's car still got a/c and P/S?
I've noted that he's used a T3 manifold with a plugged up waste gate and a conversion adaptor plate.
Nice going i was gonna do something like that before, its good to see the idea would have actually worked.
Yes, he is using a T3 manifold with T25 adaptor plate so he can use a fast spooling turbo. His turbo kicks in at 2000rpm while I think mine will kick in much later.
A/C on his car has been removed and an oil cooler has taken its space. P/S is still there.
Last edited by RedVTi; 13-12-2007 at 11:31 PM.
Is a turbo D quicker than NA B?
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 Originally Posted by FEL12X
hey Mr
what a good thread here..........really worth looking from the begining till the last ...and now still going...
u give a affordable option for those D16 here which dont really want to go the B route..(i wish i still have my EK sedan) then i will 100% do the same to it
...i am waiting for ur project finish and maybe i will start doing one again
very tempting...and seriously...great work
Go WOMBAT!!!!!!!!!!
While it is afordable, I don't think it is easy at all.
My tehnical knowledge on cars is very limited so I have to rely everything on others. I don't even know how to change engine oil or filter. It is not my field.
Personally I wish there is " turbo turn key" package available. Just drop the car and pick it when the car has been turbo charged and ready to go. I know AVO has it but it is priced at $6k+. I have decided to go down this route to see if I can do it for less.
Afterall, it looks like Tim's custom setup will most likely win contest as my project begining to look like 85% custom rather than bolt-on as stated in most ebay turbo complete packages. After this project is done, we shall know for sure what parts are worth using and how to set it up correctly.
Thank you for your support mate...once I have my car back you can do the magic on the exterior.
Is a turbo D quicker than NA B?
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 Originally Posted by RedVTi
While it is afordable, I don't think it is easy at all.
My tehnical knowledge on cars is very limited so I have to rely everything on others. I don't even know how to change engine oil or filter. It is not my field.
Personally I wish there is " turbo turn key" package available. Just drop the car and pick it when the car has been turbo charged and ready to go. I know AVO has it but it is priced at $6k+. I have decided to go down this route to see if I can do it for less.
Afterall, it looks like Tim's custom setup will most likely win contest as my project begining to look like 85% custom rather than bolt-on as stated in most ebay turbo complete packages. After this project is done, we shall know for sure what parts are worth using and how to set it up correctly.
Thank you for your support mate...once I have my car back you can do the magic on the exterior.
I think that why the GReddy kit is a good option IMO its a true bolt-on.
One day install and boost that night no modding needed what so every!!
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 Originally Posted by Lukezen27
I think that why the GReddy kit is a good option IMO its a true bolt-on.
One day install and boost that night no modding needed what so every!! 
I think the Trust kit is a very good bolt-on kit if you want 100-120kw on the wheel and be happy with it.
Not sure the Trust turbo that comes with the kit is capable if you want higher output. And their injectors and e-management are not recommended from what I have read so far.
I believe custom kit will be much better than the Trust kit if you want ultimate power gain and use for track/drag.
Is a turbo D quicker than NA B?
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 Originally Posted by RedVTi
I think the Trust kit is a very good bolt-on kit if you want 100-120kw on the wheel and be happy with it.
Not sure the Trust turbo that comes with the kit is capable if you want higher output. And their injectors and e-management are not recommended from what I have read so far.
I believe custom kit will be much better than the Trust kit if you want ultimate power gain and use for track/drag.
True but you only need to upgrade a few things in the GReddy kit to make good power
Plus you can drive round on low boost till you do upgrade the day of install..
Last edited by Lukezen27; 14-12-2007 at 03:17 PM.
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Ok... this XS turbo kit is now officially garbage and cannot be recommended.
The idling problem is gone after the spark plugs have been changed.
But...the turbo won't spooling even up to 4000rpm......
This mean the XS turbo is basically not suitable for this 1.6L engine. And because it doesn't spool, the engine intake gets all choked up and engine becomes straving for oxygen. Bad.
XS Turbo - useless - may be better for skyline which has 2.5L engine - anyone wants to buy it for $200?
XS External wastegte - there is no rating marked on the spring so don't know at what boost it would open..anyone wants to buy it for $65?
XS dumpipe - needed to be scrapped even after cutting it to the right length
Newly custom made piping for the external wastegate - need to be scrapped.
I have lost more than this kit originally costed me with labour time and useless parts. If only you can see my face!
I am now very pissed with F%^King this kit...what a waste of time and money...I thought it would still work and can use it for comparison with Tim's custom civic. Well, the conclusion is that there is no comparison. Do not...I repeat..do not waste yout money.
I made a mistake of not going custom in the first place.
Now we need to go back to the drawing board and start savaging what's left of this XS kit. We will still use the manifold and intercooler piping but the turbo has to be changed. For simplicity sake, we decide to use a turbo with internal wastegate. I am going to bring out my spare skyline turbo in my garage...brand new garett will probably cost me another $1600+ so let's go with this turbo for now.
See pic. Plus I will need a Xforce 3" dump pipe for the turbo.


Tim's civic can produce a useable 135kw atw with turbo starts spooling at 2000rpm and the boost remains all the way through to the redline.
I am still hoping for my project to have a good result.
Last edited by RedVTi; 17-12-2007 at 10:41 PM.
Is a turbo D quicker than NA B?
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Ouch dude
That's sucks
Wasn't the turbo kit made for you car?
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 Originally Posted by Lukezen27
Ouch dude
That's sucks
Wasn't the turbo kit made for you car?
It was for d16.
And thats why not much of it works, because its about $1150.
It was actually starting to look you were almost there, and then this happens.
Hope it works out, i was originally going to do same thing, and decided custom.
Just wondering, how much the skyline turbo you have cost you? Or has it been there so long you forget...
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 Originally Posted by 1996ek1
It was for d16.
And thats why not much of it works, because its about $1150.
It was actually starting to look you were almost there, and then this happens.
Hope it works out, i was originally going to do same thing, and decided custom.
Just wondering, how much the skyline turbo you have cost you? Or has it been there so long you forget...
Yeah, i thought I was there then this thing happens. One step forward and two steps back with this bloody kit!! And the turbo is way too large to use with this little 1.6L engine. Either that or the wastegate is a defect unit and just leaks boost.
XS like the rest of the other US ebay sellers put this type of universal kits together and by changing a few parts like the manifold and intercooler piping and they would market the kit as whether they want it to be. Now I can tell you that they have never tested any of their kit. Case close
I think I am now scrapping $1k worth of parts and labour.
This turbo was left behind by a client few years ago so no cost to me.
If I only listened to Tim and go custom from the start then this project would have finished by now. So it's my own fault.
Last edited by RedVTi; 17-12-2007 at 10:42 PM.
Is a turbo D quicker than NA B?
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 Originally Posted by 1996ek1
It was for d16.
And thats why not much of it works, because its about $1150.
It was actually starting to look you were almost there, and then this happens.
Hope it works out, i was originally going to do same thing, and decided custom.
Just wondering, how much the skyline turbo you have cost you? Or has it been there so long you forget...
My is also for D16's and its working great..
That should have meant the turbo was matched for 1.6L should it not?
 Originally Posted by RedVTi
If I only listened to Tim and go custom from the start then this project would have finished by now. So it's my own fault.
There's nothing wrong with kits its just you picked the wrong one IMO
Last edited by Lukezen27; 16-12-2007 at 09:21 PM.
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