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  1. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by destrukshn View Post
    get in a accident, and your airbag is not connected, your insurance is void, so is your rego.
    Ironic considering that SRS airbags cause injuries and are expensive to replace. One would think insurance companies would be happy not to have SRS airbags fitted. I understand the whole "as the manufacturer intends" clause though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0nty ITR View Post
    Ironic considering that SRS airbags cause injuries and are expensive to replace. One would think insurance companies would be happy not to have SRS airbags fitted. I understand the whole "as the manufacturer intends" clause though.
    some cause injuries, i'm sure it does more good than harm.
    all depends how you position yourself as well.
    air bag had saved my head from hitting the steering wheel before.

  3. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by m0nty ITR View Post
    Ironic considering that SRS airbags cause injuries and are expensive to replace. One would think insurance companies would be happy not to have SRS airbags fitted. I understand the whole "as the manufacturer intends" clause though.
    The words of a man who's never been in a serious car accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moya View Post
    The words of a man who's never been in a serious car accident.
    I've done enough driver training to know that airbags are designed to minimize harm. Driver and passenger front airbags can be harmful if driver and passenger are not seated correctly. Airbags are only effective at higher speeds. In accidents at around 40-60km/h injuries from SRS units are more prevalent. I undrstand that they become more effective at higher speeds but if SRS units were the ultimate safety device wouldn't they be compulsory in motorsport? As it stands to compete in certain categories of motorsport, airbags must be removed.

    This is taking things off topic, but to increase safety in cars manufacturers must look at better restraint systems. The lap/sach seatbelt is out of date and can cause chronic injuries even at low speeds. Again, if passengers are incorrectly seated the belt can become completely useless and passengers can slide underneath it. Why couldn't manufacturers employ a 4 point harness in cars?
    Last edited by m0nty ITR; 27-12-2007 at 01:37 PM.

  5. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by m0nty ITR View Post
    I've done enough driver training to know that airbags are designed to minimize harm. Driver and passenger front airbags can be harmful if driver and passenger are not seated correctly. Airbags are only effective at higher speeds. In accidents at around 40-60km/h injuries from SRS units are more prevalent. I undrstand that they become more effective at higher speeds but if SRS units were the ultimate safety device wouldn't they be compulsory in motorsport? As it stands to compete in certain categories of motorsport, airbags must be removed.
    Err no. Motorsport you have full bucket seats, plastic window, and you're harnessed in. And in extreme motorsports your neck is also locked into the seat to stop whiplash. Not to mention the helmet.

    I was recently in a 100KM smash on the highway with my car flipping. So I know what I'm talking about when I say they help.

    Sure I'm sure they get a little bump on the head (which I got) - but the point is they save lives not stop injury. And when you're about to hit a concrete barrier at 90KM/hr the last thing you think about is 'oh noes I'm about to get a bump on my arm, and tomorrow cricket!'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moya View Post
    Err no. Motorsport you have full bucket seats, plastic window, and you're harnessed in. And in extreme motorsports your neck is also locked into the seat to stop whiplash. Not to mention the helmet.

    I was recently in a 100KM smash on the highway with my car flipping. So I know what I'm talking about when I say they help.

    Sure I'm sure they get a little bump on the head (which I got) - but the point is they save lives not stop injury. And when you're about to hit a concrete barrier at 90KM/hr the last thing you think about is 'oh noes I'm about to get a bump on my arm, and tomorrow cricket!'
    You were in a crash @ 100km/h. As I said, they have a greater impact at higher speeds. I was commenting on the invasive nature of a front airbag. Side and curtain airbags are much better in harm reduction. Neither deploy outwards.

    Anyway, we've taken this far enough off topic. Glad to hear you weren't hurt badly.

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