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							hey all, 
 
just a quick pick of your brains! 
 
ive got a D16A8 1991 CRX, current mods for the engine are Intake, RS*R extractors and exhaust. She goes well... but as we all do - I want a bit more! 
 
I'm debating between the B16A option or the Turbo way... B16As i know I can get for about $1500+ plus extras like mounts, driveshafts, gear linkages. 
 
But with a TURBO - what do I really need? 
 
Im not looking for massive Gains, I don't have the money for a $5000+ turbo job, so I thought I'd ask if its possible to build a 6-7psi Turbo Kit for around the $1500-$2000 mark with everything included - Basically RUNNING!??? 
 
I know u can get kits for about $1000 - $1500 - are they any good? I mean are they Ok for a start up? or would I be able just collect bits and pieces and still make it within the budget? 
 
Like I said - im not after massive boost, or massive power - just a little more than stock...  
 
any help would be appreciated! 
 
Mikey
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		GENONE - 1983 Honda CRX | BANDIT - 1984 Honda CRX/HKS Supercharger | SINISTR - 1991 Honda CRX | RACECRX - 1983 Honda CRX with JDM B16A  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Turbo kit for $1,000 - $1,500  You're kidding right?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							it better not be those EBAY kits !!! :P
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Turbo to any car will end up costing about $6000. give or take $1000 but usally it ends up being around there. 
 
That is the total cost incurred with all parts, installation, suplementry parts (BOV, better brakes, certificates etc.) and increased insurance premiums if you are actually gonna pay for it. 
 
You can do it for a lot cheaper, not pay for insurance, fit it yourself.. but that increases the risk of losing (car crash, defects, engine failure) greatly. 
 
If you can afford it then do it. 
 
Just my thoughts.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Nuttz
					
				 
				it better not be those EBAY kits !!! :P 
			
		 
	 
 its an Idea isn't it? hahaha! 
 
nah - I know they are dodgy - but thats what Im asking... wat do I need? what am I looking at for the MOST basic turbo setup!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		GENONE - 1983 Honda CRX | BANDIT - 1984 Honda CRX/HKS Supercharger | SINISTR - 1991 Honda CRX | RACECRX - 1983 Honda CRX with JDM B16A  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							As VTC said it cost alot. 
 The $1500 kits on Ebay are not complete. Also I spent that much just on tuning to pass emmisions test. The cost will keep on adding up. Most people shouldn't waste their money on turbos, I did but thats just my hobby car I have no plans on selling, its all for fun, Your car will always be off the road too so if you do go through with it make sure you have a spare car. 
Basically what I am saying is turbo is not for everyone and the money poured in will never end, unless you can fix problems that arise yourself you better have money for the mechanics. 
  
Also you say you want little gains but when bigger gains are just around the corner, you will always want them. 
  
Don't mean to scare you but it is true. 
  
Like what Robert from Hannys says, "If you want more power, buy a NSX"
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							i have been going through this same debate in my head for ages. after it all, im figuring with all these power laws coming in, they're going to hammer any modified car. so i'm staying n/a. what they cant see in the engine, they wont know about!  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							turbo.. i saw this dvd.. High Octane - Overboost.. they done up this honda CRX and named it Banzai lol.. this thing had a massive turbo along with a massive intercooler and all internals were worked.. it was a machine.. munched literally all cars it lined up with.. except for when it went witha R34 GTR.. but even then it wasnt that far behind.. TURBO good stuff..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 ..VTEC YO!..  
pure N/A all the way
  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							own it! its inspired a mate to boost his CRX. they had the b16a though
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							To start off you will need the following: 
  
1. An exhaust manifold - $600 
2. Turbo - second hand WRX one $200 
3. Intercooler and custom piping - $600 
4. Oil lines and/or water lines for the turbo - $200 
5. exhaust piping and muffler - $1000 
6. ECU and tuning - $1500 
7. Larger injectors - $500 
8. BOV - $200 
  
The above prices are only approximations and will very much depend on whether they are new or second hand and what brand they are. Also, this is a basic kit that will ensure your engine runs safely. 
  
If you install it yourself you will save money, but if you get someone to do it, then it will add about another $1000 - $2000. 
  
So all up you are looking at around $5000 just for the parts plus labour. 
  
Hope this helps. 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							i have a t28 and boost controller for sale??? 
 
they are definitely approximates. cooler piping alone costs around $600
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							and it doesnt include things like clutch, brake upgrade, gauges etc that you are going to need as well
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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