[CU2] To all the new Euro Auto owner out there!!!!

[SPQR]

Why doesnt the Manual Euro have this problem? They both have the same engine.

The CU2 Auto and Manual have some differences in level of tune. The Auto produces slightly less torque and the peak is 100rpm lower than the Manual. (234Nm@4,300 rpm v's 230Nm@4,200 rpm).

http://euro.honda.com.au/about-the-c...spx#powertrain

...the thing that annoys me is that the engine and box are essentially the same units as the previous model, thus why I got the car...

The CU2 engine has improvement over the CL9; such as the increased compression ratio from 10.5:1 in the CL9 to 11:1 in the CU2. This is a substantial improvement in efficiency.

The problem might be related to the relatively high compression ratio but if Honda states in its specification that the CU2 need only use 95 RON then people should not have to buy 98 RON.

[jbowly]

Hi all,

I have been talking to a few Euro 09 owners and realised that many of us have to same problem with the "clickling" noise during slow acceleration. All dealers use fuel as the excuse and keep pushing us back by telling us to test is again with a few tank of 98 fuel.
If you have the same problem, please complaint to the dealer and make sure they put it up to Honda Aust so that they can look into this!
At the end of the day, this is our car and we pay some good money for it. We must make sure we satisfy with what we purchase!
Thanks guys!!!

Honda euro Lux with Sat Nav Purchased 18th Sept now 1740 KMs still has pinging. Back to Dealer twice and no change. Running on 98 OCT Dealer added 2 bottles of octane booster no change. This pinging it would appear is not a petrol problem, yet dealer keeps saying just keep driving it. now metallic pinging will cause engine damage if left unchecked .( owners manual Page 334). So why hav'nt Honda Australia taken action to advise they are doing something about it. Shouldnt we all write a letter to honda Australia direct to add pressure to this issue. There is a contact page on the www.honda.com.au web site. If you have this problem then please communicate it to honda direct. Unless you do Honda will continue to fend us off through their dealers without an official response. Go to http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/conn...es/Contact+Us/

[Eurotony]

Luxury Nav Auto purchased July 19th now completed 7700km's. Never had a pinging issue & am averaging 8.9litres per 100km as per computer. Only noise issue has been a rattle from the drink holder lid & the sunvisor swinging around & hitting me in the head when going around a corner & I have it over the drivers side window.

Have always used VPower & use Mobil 1 10w-30 fully synthetic from 1200km's. Other than that no issue's at all. Great car.

[OZEuromania]

Honda euro Lux with Sat Nav Purchased 18th Sept now 1740 KMs still has pinging. Back to Dealer twice and no change. Running on 98 OCT Dealer added 2 bottles of octane booster no change. This pinging it would appear is not a petrol problem, yet dealer keeps saying just keep driving it. now metallic pinging will cause engine damage if left unchecked .( owners manual Page 334). So why hav'nt Honda Australia taken action to advise they are doing something about it. Shouldnt we all write a letter to honda Australia direct to add pressure to this issue. There is a contact page on the www.honda.com.au web site. If you have this problem then please communicate it to honda direct. Unless you do Honda will continue to fend us off through their dealers without an official response. Go to http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/conn...es/Contact+Us/

I wrote a msg thru the page, hope i will get some reply soon, and will update it here.

[LXRY]

Honda euro Lux with Sat Nav Purchased 18th Sept now 1740 KMs still has pinging. Back to Dealer twice and no change. Running on 98 OCT Dealer added 2 bottles of octane booster no change. This pinging it would appear is not a petrol problem, yet dealer keeps saying just keep driving it. now metallic pinging will cause engine damage if left unchecked .( owners manual Page 334). So why hav'nt Honda Australia taken action to advise they are doing something about it. Shouldnt we all write a letter to honda Australia direct to add pressure to this issue. There is a contact page on the www.honda.com.au web site. If you have this problem then please communicate it to honda direct. Unless you do Honda will continue to fend us off through their dealers without an official response. Go to http://www.honda.com.au/wps/wcm/conn...es/Contact+Us/

Good luck and welcome to Honda ):

[SPQR]

^^^ Hmmm. The new Subaru WRX sedan can be had with leather, sunroof and sat nav now. And 195kw! I remember my old WRX was reliable and rattle free. Ugly interior though.

[jbowly]

New Honda 2009 Euro Ping MARK 1. Announcing the new ping model.
No need to play a CD or listen to the radio you listen to the ping ping ping

Between 30kph and 80 kph as you start to accelerate it has a fantastic rate of pinging. Over 100kph it just pings all the time.In fact its so unique Honda Australia have referred it to Honda Japan as the ping tune is so special.

Just think if you buy the New Honda Euro 2009 model you might get the pinging model to. Yes folks 5000kms traveled already to the wonderful constant pinging tune. It must be a very special model as Honda must think its worth keeping that way as they have'nt bothered to recall the vehicle and havnt been it touch with me for two months

The official line is its covered by warranty and anything that goes wrong Honda will fix it. Er when....well thats another question. Warranty is for 3 years so they can string it out. Nothing in writing of course regarding the problem just telephone call from Heinz the public relations officer.

And so it goes on. Cant tell you how happy I am with the vehicle. Words just dont describe it. But I can tell you my previous Honda Euro (2004 Model) was fantastic. No problems, no worries. really good vehicle. Can I recommend you buy one of those I can highly recommend it

Hold on I have just thought of something. Maybe those crafty buggers at honda have included the pinging option to counter police radar. There you go Ill have to go out tomorrow and try it down the highway and see if i get my picture taken.

If this wasnt so sick in the way Honda are treating us it would be funny so I have tried to make the best of it even though the car cost me $46,000 and Honda is treating us like a mushhroom . Youve bought it and we dont have to hurry to do anything about it.

Hey Guess what. This isnt just a problem with the honda euro its also a problem with the honda TSX in the USA. Now both are the same car just a name change to appeal to the different markets. You can read about their pinging problems too at...http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684180 It would appear then that this is a world wide problem. The model there was released in early 2008 and they still havent fixed it.
What chance have we got. No wonder Honda here are not saying anything.
Its more serious than we all thought.

[eur001]

New Honda 2009 Euro Ping MARK 1. Announcing the new ping model.
No need to play a CD or listen to the radio you listen to the ping ping ping

Between 30kph and 80 kph as you start to accelerate it has a fantastic rate of pinging. Over 100kph it just pings all the time.In fact its so unique Honda Australia have referred it to Honda Japan as the ping tune is so special.

Just think if you buy the New Honda Euro 2009 model you might get the pinging model to. Yes folks 5000kms traveled already to the wonderful constant pinging tune. It must be a very special model as Honda must think its worth keeping that way as they have'nt bothered to recall the vehicle and havnt been it touch with me for two months

The official line is its covered by warranty and anything that goes wrong Honda will fix it. Er when....well thats another question. Warranty is for 3 years so they can string it out. Nothing in writing of course regarding the problem just telephone call from Heinz the public relations officer.

And so it goes on. Cant tell you how happy I am with the vehicle. Words just dont describe it. But I can tell you my previous Honda Euro (2004 Model) was fantastic. No problems, no worries. really good vehicle. Can I recommend you buy one of those I can highly recommend it

Hold on I have just thought of something. Maybe those crafty buggers at honda have included the pinging option to counter police radar. There you go Ill have to go out tomorrow and try it down the highway and see if i get my picture taken.

If this wasnt so sick in the way Honda are treating us it would be funny so I have tried to make the best of it even though the car cost me $46,000 and Honda is treating us like a mushhroom . Youve bought it and we dont have to hurry to do anything about it.

Well said.. but if they can still sell the car, i dont think they will act quickly!!
Just hope that more potential buyers can read this pinging issue before they sign.

[tony1234]

I reckon it's a timing chain rattle.Either it's too loose from the factory or possibly the tensioner needs adjusting,that's if you can,it's most likely self tensioning.Just my thoughts.PS.I'm glad i own a worry free 06 CL9.

[Type R Positive]

Well said.. but if they can still sell the car, i dont think they will act quickly!!
Just hope that more potential buyers can read this pinging issue before they sign.

I'll be in Perth on the weekend, we must catch up.

[buddah51au]

Well said.. but if they can still sell the car, i dont think they will act quickly!!
Just hope that more potential buyers can read this pinging issue before they sign.

What Pinging Issue, no such problem on my CU2 Auto or 2 others that I personally know of

[jbowly]

[QUOTE=SPQR;1891308]Honda specifies 95.........

http://euro.honda.com.au/about-the-c...spx#powertrain

.........Which means that it should not require 98. If dealers say it does then Honda needs to change the specification so that people can make an informed choice. 95 RON is about $1.65 per litre in Darwin at the moment. 98 RON is over $2.00 per litre!!!

With a lot of letters to the media about the same engine noise we are experiencing here in Australia finally they have caved in and given us an answer. It is as follows. Software fix is reputedly available mid February

Dear John, we appreciate that you are concerned about the presence of an engine operational sound as it detracts from your overall enjoyment of the vehicle and we wish to again reassure you that this condition will have no impact on performance or engine reliability. We have been working closely with the technical division of Honda Corporation in Japan and following extensive investigations we can confirm that the condition you are experiencing is not that of “pinging” which is known within the industry as “pre-ignition”. The condition that you are experiencing is a combustion sound taking place after the programmed ignition, namely a “post combustion noise”. As this condition takes place after the programmed ignition and with the piston on its downward stroke, there is no detrimental force or impact within the engine in your vehicle. Therefore your engine has not sustained any damage and we are happy to offer you a guarantee on the engine while you are the owner of this vehicle as a way of reassuring you of our confidence that no wear or damage is occurring to the engine or associated components.

We trust this advice from the manufacturer clarifies the matter.

Regards
Joe Gelsi
Customer Relations Manager
Honda Australia Pty Ltd