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  1. #13
    > and when you say tear out the subframe, is that under normal use or hard/track driving?

    on civics, anything more than a 14mm (VTi spec) rear sway will crack the subframe with regular driving.

    Nick.

    PS. an ASR brace and an ITR 22m rear sway bar is the hot ticket IMHO. They're available as a complete kit with all the little fiddly bits, which is a bonus.

    PPS. I believe the ASR brace in now available in black, if you want to avoid unwanted attention.

  2. #14
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    wow I didn't realise the subframe was that weak :S

    but yeah, so asr brace will fit dc2 with dc2r lca? that's all I'm worried about, like you said if the subframe is weak then I'd need to get one if I buy a thicker sway bar

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    Yeh, generally speaking the subframe is weak as piss.. ive heard of thicker sways tearing them from simple day to day driving.
    In saying that tho, there are the few that say that theyve tracked etc etc and have had no probs with out an ASR brace.

    Feeling lucky GreekWarrior?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreekWarrior View Post
    wow I didn't realise the subframe was that weak :S

    but yeah, so asr brace will fit dc2 with dc2r lca? that's all I'm worried about, like you said if the subframe is weak then I'd need to get one if I buy a thicker sway bar

    You just answered your own question.

    As I've said before either do it right or dont do it at all.

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    haha, well I am pretty lucky


    Alright cool, so looks like I'll be hunting for one of these kits
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  6. #18
    i am also interested in getting the ASR complete kit. My ej9 doesn't have a rear swaybar. The front is 23mm. I intend on swapping the ek9 front swaybar and the 24mm rear swaybar kit along with the subframe.
    At this point i would like to ask about the performance difference in car's balance. My set up is Buddy Club N+ with energy suspension bushings. My tires are 185-55-14.
    I expect more rigid and agile handling and better steering response. Still, is the comfort of the ride going to be affected? My ride is already firm enough so i am afraid that it is going to get worse.
    And something. This set up is prone to be oversteerish or understeerish?
    Thanks in advance.

  7. #19
    [Only will respond in rough/generic terms... I don't have a EJ]

    > i am also interested in getting the ASR complete kit.

    and

    > I intend on swapping the ek9 front swaybar and the 24mm rear swaybar kit along with the subframe.

    24mm rear sway bar????

    The hot/standad configuration is 26mm front (CTR) and 22mm rear (from an ITR). The 2mm difference in sway bar thickness will be a large difference on the road.

    > At this point i would like to ask about the performance difference in car's balance.
    > My set up is Buddy Club N+ with energy suspension bushings.
    > My tires are 185-55-14.

    The difference IMHO will not be that huge. I think you are tyre limited.

    If you can jump to good 205mm 15inch tyres. about 2 degrees neg camber front/1 degree rear and the sway bars, I think you'll find it a good value upgrade.

    > Still, is the comfort of the ride going to be affected?
    > This set up is prone to be oversteerish or understeerish?

    The beauty of sway bays is that they are fairly passive over bumps, and level the car through corners.

    The negatives of sway bars are more weight transfer to the outer wheel, and make the car more prone to lift off oversteer.

    Nick.
    Last edited by nd55; 23-11-2008 at 07:32 PM.

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    im also looking to get sway bars for my dc2,

    i was thinking whiteline, do they sell a complete kit that includes the bracing and all that? or do i have to source seperate parts from all over the joint?

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