just get a decent shock.
The only thing about king springs are they sag over time.
Usually takes them a few yrs.
If you get a decent shock you can change the springs by that time to something more decent.
I'm running KYB AGX adjustibles are they are quite good
they are nice man. the hardest is hard and 1 is quite soft. you can ramp up the rear for better turn in but it wont really affect over/understeer too dramatically. spring and swaybars are for that.
think of a shock as something designed to slow the springs movement. with the rear shocks stiffer it takes longer for the wheel to settle to its final position while cornering. so as the front moves fast and the rear slower it creates more weight transfer in the rear and less at the front for a split moment, leading to better front weight distribution, and therefore grip on turn in. but as the rear slowly catches up and reaches its final resting position it is the same as before the shocks were installed as this has to do with actual roll resistance.
it is something cool too. turn it soft for long annoying drives so its nice a comfy. many drives back from places with my missus sore in the ribs from sprited driving a i can turn it soft with easy quick turn of the screw. tip push it down and turn or it doesn't turn.
cheers man
Is this the end of my car modding days? Buying a house says so...
they still have to come but i'll try post some later!
Originally Posted by hisoka
wer did u order from ? usa ?
yeah from the US of A, for 120 bucks cheaper than i could get them here!
be more if the damn dollar wasnt so crap..
Originally Posted by 55EXX
they are nice man. the hardest is hard and 1 is quite soft. you can ramp up the rear for better turn in but it wont really affect over/understeer too dramatically. spring and swaybars are for that.
think of a shock as something designed to slow the springs movement. with the rear shocks stiffer it takes longer for the wheel to settle to its final position while cornering. so as the front moves fast and the rear slower it creates more weight transfer in the rear and less at the front for a split moment, leading to better front weight distribution, and therefore grip on turn in. but as the rear slowly catches up and reaches its final resting position it is the same as before the shocks were installed as this has to do with actual roll resistance.
it is something cool too. turn it soft for long annoying drives so its nice a comfy. many drives back from places with my missus sore in the ribs from sprited driving a i can turn it soft with easy quick turn of the screw. tip push it down and turn or it doesn't turn.
cheers man
thanks for the input dude i look forward to experiencing it myself. Swaybars will of course be coming soon
had king springs low on my eg that was installed with koni yellows about 3 years ago and they were great! Rode really well ( provided you have good seats as clapped out oe seats tend to bounce), only started sagging when I started hammering the car in competition events and they stopped sagging after a certain point.
they are quite soft springs, about 3.8kg front and 2.6kg at rear from memory compared to max 4.5kg all round for dc2r oe springs for example.
off the shelf koni sport shocks are adj in rebound only and should not be used to compensate for springs that are too soft. The factory deem the adj as a wear compensating device; it is however a good and cheap tuning tool for cornering transient reponses when used in moderation. Turn it too hard with the king springs the suspension would jack down over a series of bumps for example esp in the rear. Specialised shock shops can modify the koni yellows for bump and rebouned as well as uprated the valves to handle springs stiffer than 10kg but budget around $1200-1500 for the pair of shocks inclusive.
ppl on this forum likes to bag Kings springs for various reasons, sure they are soft-ish, will sag and without bling but they are cheap and widely available and I still managed competitive times with my b16a eg with R888, rear whiteline 20mm sway bar, eg5 oe front bar with only 1.5 deg neg camber at the time and though car looked v rolly polly in pics it felt fine inside the car.
I've since upgraded to Ground Control coilover sleeves setup on my koni yellows on 6kg/4kg. Fair bit stiffer, still way too soft for max track potential but still quite comfy as a daily driver.
On your dc2 have a longer tail section with more centerlever moment over the rear springs you can afford to good as stiff as 8kg at rear and still be quite comfy with the koni yellows.
^thanks for sharing your experience i appreciate it
update: they came today! i ordered on boxing day and they arrived this morning, that has to be the quickest freight I've ever seen! Planning to put them on the day after New years Day.
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oh dear ****ing lawd. my d*ck did more than move. it jumped out of my pants, and tore the fly open....
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