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  1. #25
    '99 DC2R/'88 CRX Array
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    It's correct, but then again, it wasn't Honda building the engines, it was Mugen. Honda used turbocharging and non-VTEC in F1.
    '99 DC2R, '90 BMW E30 318is, '88 CRX


  2. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLKCRX
    hmm i read a very old mag.....last week...
    hav't checked it out thow

    it stated no Honda f1 race engine in any race car has vtec or had vtec.
    Vtec to Honda was nothing more than a way to control emissions not to make more power.

    Regards James

    Race engines operate at a very high revs only, so there's no need for VTEC system. It would only add weight to the top of the engine and also would probably make engine less reliable. (more things to go wrong).

    VTEC system allows a car with the high performance engine to maintain a good street driveability.

    Type R engine is the completely different animal again.
    It is the closest thing to a race engine in the road car.
    The engine is hand build and blue printed from the factory.
    Special gear box with LSD is matched to the engine's power curve. It allows Type R to stay in power band while changing gears on the race track. 8)

  3. #27
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    Porsche has Variocam.

    BMW has Vanos.

    Lambo has constantly variable on Gallardo.

    Ferrari are doing it too.

    Honda now has iVTEC.

    Even Toyota has VVTi.

    I am noticing a trend here.

  4. #28
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    Correct, but VVTi doen's have variable lift. Only VVTL-i and that is only in the celicas and corolla sportivos

    /pickyness.
    Got a question? Check out the FAQ - http://www.ozhonda.com/go/faq

  5. #29
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    even the new ford BA's have dual overhead camshafts, variable valve timing .....

    But no lift

  6. #30
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    Who the hell bumped this thread again? :?

    VTEC is a good concept, but Honda really only refined an existing idea and did a damn fine job of it - BMW came up with it first???? I can't remember, but I'm certain that the timing part was out by a Euro company, not sure about the lift though.
    '99 DC2R, '90 BMW E30 318is, '88 CRX


  7. #31
    Porsche were the first.

  8. #32
    '99 DC2R/'88 CRX Array
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    LOL - I knew it was European.
    '99 DC2R, '90 BMW E30 318is, '88 CRX


  9. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setanta
    Who the hell bumped this thread again? :?
    *points @ typer636

  10. #34
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    VTEC IS GOOD u PEOPLE WHO HAVE VTEC DO NOT RELISE THE PAIN IN THE NON CTEC CAR DRIVERS
    Team Bacchus Racing Lexus ISF
    Bacchus Energy drink
    Drive your Energy

  11. #35
    '99 DC2R/'88 CRX Array
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    Waaaaaaaa

    Box of tissues to the man in the yellow EG :P

    BTW Danny, this is my first VTEC car - I've owned infinitely more powerful non-VTEC that leave this one for dead
    '99 DC2R, '90 BMW E30 318is, '88 CRX


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    pete, your turning to the dark side

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