just a question about engine modding

[integragsi96]

Ok so i have a 1996 gsi integra with a b18b2 engine. I have been chatting to one of the guys on here about it. Just wonder weather just to do a straight engine swap to get a vti-r engine in my car or wether just to put a b16b head onto my b18b2.
So im just wondering what would have the best outcome? with power as i know the gsi, vti-r and type r all have the same torque of 135nm.

[Giraffe]

I don't think you could put a b16b on without doing some mods and tuning .

[duckey]

if you want to put a vtir engine in it...youre better off just selling the GSI and buying a VTIR straight off. saves you headaches, time and money.

[Terrano08]

u want a b20b block and a vtec head of some sort im sure the best preference would be b16

[u mad?]

i vote b20vtec

and the b18c7 (audm dc2r engine) has 172 Nm of torque rather than 135 Nm.

[02gzm]

It would be cheapest, more powerful and more reliable selling the GSi and buying a VTi-R.

A B16 head on a B18 block will only marginally raise the compression from the stock 9.6:1 to just under 10:1. You'll then need a new computer and piggyback to add vtec control and A/F ratio adjustment to allow the car to actually run properly. You'd still be stuck with a 4.2 final drive GSi gearbox too.

[integragsi96]

or would it just be easier just to buy a b18c7 or h22a engine and gearbox and just drop that

[bennjamin]

Ok so i have a 1996 gsi integra with a b18b2 engine. I have been chatting to one of the guys on here about it. Just wonder weather just to do a straight engine swap to get a vti-r engine in my car or wether just to put a b16b head onto my b18b2.
So im just wondering what would have the best outcome? with power as i know the gsi, vti-r and type r all have the same torque of 135nm.

1st.

All of those combos will not reap such a great deal of HP or FEEL on your car.
A waste of money for the above.

Do this.

Take out some static weight of your car - reduce the rim size if you can. Get a HD clutch and lightweight flywheel.

Most importantly get a ITR DC2R gearbox. The shorter final drive and slightly different 1/2 gearset increases performance considerably....and the swanky diff helps with feel and cornering.

And , look at a upgraded rear swaybar + mounting kit such as ASR or BEAKS.

[string]

Bennjamin hit the nail on the head - best bang for buck NA mod is gearing. You can put a new clutch and light flywheel in while your box is off too.

If you've ever driven a DA9 you'd know just how crippling the DC4 non-VTEC gearbox is. The final drive is ridiculously long. I thought that mentions of 4.266:1 were errors until I drove one myself.

[seihoa]

did turbo come into your mind?
thats if ur not a P plater.

As everyone said better off selling it n buyin a vtir or type r as they are pretty cheap these days.

Save urself the headache of an engine swap and finding an engine.

[integragsi96]

did turbo come into your mind?
thats if ur not a P plater.

As everyone said better off selling it n buyin a vtir or type r as they are pretty cheap these days.

Save urself the headache of an engine swap and finding an engine.

yehh turbo has come into mind, but the unfortunate thing is that im a p plater.
i wanna also manual convert my car too....hmm probs cheaper getting a dc2...but i cant afford one right now lol

[integragsi96]

Bennjamin hit the nail on the head - best bang for buck NA mod is gearing. You can put a new clutch and light flywheel in while your box is off too.

If you've ever driven a DA9 you'd know just how crippling the DC4 non-VTEC gearbox is. The final drive is ridiculously long. I thought that mentions of 4.266:1 were errors until I drove one myself.

yehh the gearbox is annoying. i can get quite a few cars off the mark but the final gear is just soo long...its painfull