K20 or b16a turbo?

**Benson** · 22-03-2010 08:02 AM

I would personally Kswap the car if you are planning on keeping it for a few years. The B16a's are a old motors. They will requuire some kind of major service plus the fact that its a 15years old engine, you always have something in the back of your mind that something will give up or stop working. You can sell of the b16a package for a few thousands and use that towards your Kswap

K20's are becoming much more affortable. Just need to shop around for parts to make it fit the engine bay. Other than that, you cant beat the 6 speed LSD gearbox and the VTC technology. Kswap + turbo and you'll see around 350-400hp easily.

**kraiye** · 22-03-2010 08:59 AM

all comes down to budget

Benson, some good points but you worry too much

let me put this out there to everyone else... how many b series owners "always have something in the back of your mind that something will give up or stop working" ?
I sure as never think about it!

i still say build and boost a b20

**CB7_OWNER** · 22-03-2010 02:18 PM

^ i do....

I'm scared my VTEC is going to fall off.

**dougie_504** · 22-03-2010 02:42 PM

I was worried that my B16A wouldn't pull well at the dyno day on Saturday but it made 99.4kw ATW - with what I was told by the previous owner was just I/H/E but might be internals also, maybe built in Japan ages ago...

My friend's B16A with Skunk2 camshafts, camgears, valves, springs, retainers, port job and I/H/E made 100.7kw untuned.
And my other mate with a B18C7 swap made 84.9kw with a restrictive exhaust.

So you never know...B-series are tough motors and aren't as problematic as some people think they are IMO.

**thebob** · 22-03-2010 04:00 PM

They are a great motors, but with K's you get a faster then built b series for less. Plus you get the " please tell me thats not NA " comment.

**jks24** · 22-03-2010 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by dougie_504

I was worried that my B16A wouldn't pull well at the dyno day on Saturday but it made 99.4kw ATW - with what I was told by the previous owner was just I/H/E but might be internals also, maybe built in Japan ages ago...

My friend's B16A with Skunk2 camshafts, camgears, valves, springs, retainers, port job and I/H/E made 100.7kw untuned.
And my other mate with a B18C7 swap made 84.9kw with a restrictive exhaust.

So you never know...B-series are tough motors and aren't as problematic as some people think they are IMO.

Ek4guy was getting 109fwkw on his b16a2 with toda headers, injen cai,
fujitsubo exhaust and vafc not tunned. Very good power for a b16

I would love a b18cr swap for mine and would leave it n/a. Don't know if I would be better goin dc5r tho just to get the k series

**Ek4Vtir** · 22-03-2010 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by IEVAQ8

not really, as my car on the outside only looked mild, just was lowered neatly, 17" dc5R wheels (so still retaining honda badge looks stock). and tinted windows, i think i got away with it heaps, due to not having a big fuk off cannon muffler at the back, i had a straight through 3" exhaust with no cats or mufflers at all(which mad it burble and deep on idle, but really loud on WOT...lol), and it was neatly finished at the back where it didnt protrude past the rear bar cut out.....

and i guess a bit of luck and sensible driving (u know right place right time)...

lol thats hardcore, Yeah thats what I'm gonna be worried bout, cops giving a massive fine for modding the car up too much..

What is even legal to mod nowadays?

with Kswap that is also classified as ilegal mod I assume? lols

**thebob** · 22-03-2010 06:32 PM

You need to research before you post this question. The fact everyone is telling you it's ok to do and you keep thinking your some street bandit who lives on the edge shows you are wasting everyones time.

**Ek4Vtir** · 22-03-2010 09:16 PM

doode i drove on my L's for two years :P

I just want to be safe than sorry

**dougie_504** · 22-03-2010 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by jks24

Ek4guy was getting 109fwkw on his b16a2 with toda headers, injen cai,
fujitsubo exhaust and vafc not tunned. Very good power for a b16

I would love a b18cr swap for mine and would leave it n/a. Don't know if I would be better goin dc5r tho just to get the k series

Yeah mine isn't tuned either, stock ECU and stuff, so I wonder if it has internal work or just the I/H/E that was stated by the previous owner when I bought it (he imported in years ago).

As far as dyno results go I don't think the number matters at all unless you have something else to compare it to. Because my friends put their cars on the dyno I had a basis for comparison, but if I just went there on my own and pulled 99.4kw I could assume that the dyno is shit or the mechanic calibrated it to please me.