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  1. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhong View Post
    What is your RPM at 100km/h ?
    for 4.44? my car has j's racing 4.44's and runs at around or just a little bit above 3500rpm at 100kmph in 6th

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    To calculate 4.44 gears revs, you multiply by 1.16.
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    Cheers.

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    Just happened to remember it since I only read that in an archived thread on s2ki the night before I posted that. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludecrs View Post
    To calculate 4.44 gears revs, you multiply by 1.16.
    Actually that's incorrect; with the 4.44 FD, you need to use a multiplier of 1.08(29). The figure of 1.16 you've quoted is needed when making calculations with the 4.77 FD.

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    Dammit!
    Memory not so good. lol.

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    Lol

  8. #152
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    Then what does a stock Final Gear run RPM on 100km/h in 6th?

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    Theoretically, it's about 3,261rpm in 6th using stock gearing, however with friction and wind resistance it's realistically about 3,500rpm.

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    excuse my ignorance if im missing something here, but how would wind resistance and friction cause a change in mechanical gearing? roadspeed and engine speed should be directly linked through gear ratios, right? if roadspeed is staying at 100km/h but revs are at 3500rpm instead of 3261rpm, doesn't some part of the driveline have to absorb those extra revs?

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    That's a good question. Basically, there are effeciency losses throughout the system from things such as slip and friction. To do the calculations, I essentially, multiply RPM by gear ratio by rotations/km based on tyre geometry. Unfortunately, this doesn't account for effeciency losses. These losses are beyond my capability to measure, but I have estimated them based on some testing which have worked out to be fairly accurate with 4.10, 4.56, and 4.57 FD ratios.

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    Ahh I see. I guess it didn't make sense in my head because I imagined a similar scenario with a bike - ie. if you're riding at a constant speed means your feet are turning the pedals at a certain rpm, but if you're riding into a strong wind at the same speed your feet don't need to turn the pedals faster, just harder. Given that you've done practical testing I guess slip has a something to do with it. Thanks

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