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  1. #121
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    theres no replacement for displacement

  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Brightside View Post
    theres no replacement for displacement
    Words of a smart man... every year someone will figure a way to get more capacity.
    If honda ever made a K30, no one would ever consider the k20 or K24 ever again ehheheh
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  3. #123
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    Well its only a matter of time until j swaps start coming up more.
    to see all of my build, checkout


  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Brightside View Post
    theres no replacement for displacement
    I tend to disagree, there just arnt that many quality builds due to budget or where people spend their money, which is fair enough, we all have one and people choose who they think will be the best for the job, other issue is a lot of people believe everything they read and if they have those parts and put it together, they should make decent power, which is rarely the case.

    Displacement however, especially in the case of a K24, is cheap power for the money, you cannot argue that.

    Soon ill be putting a 1.8ltr B18 togther on what i think is a very low to average spend for building a motor and hope to get somewhere up near that 140 range which few do after spending alot more money, will be sure to have it up when done.

  5. #125
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    There are plenty of those V6 engined EG's on youtube from the US. Bigger displacement might make faster in a drag but def not when it comes to the balance needed for high speed cornering and track-work.

    Now, I think that earlier I posted a question about the legality, even with a mod-plate, of a 2.4L EG (which is a 50% increase in capacity from largest engine fitted to this model). I thought the regs said 15% or so??? I must be wrong! Explain ! ? !

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by iijjee View Post
    There are plenty of those V6 engined EG's on youtube from the US. Bigger displacement might make faster in a drag but def not when it comes to the balance needed for high speed cornering and track-work.

    Now, I think that earlier I posted a question about the legality, even with a mod-plate, of a 2.4L EG (which is a 50% increase in capacity from largest engine fitted to this model). I thought the regs said 15% or so??? I must be wrong! Explain ! ? !
    The 15% rule applies to engine changes of the same make fitted to a vehicle until a engineers report is required as due to the capacity increase you will have to now address suspension to carry the extra weight, braking capacity and so on, not much different to the rules of fitting a turbo in the eyes of the rta and rules.

  7. #127
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    OK! That's clear! I think I remember now that un-engineered changes up to 15% over the max capacity normally fitted to that chassis (from the same manufacturer) don't need engineering.

    I just wondered, since the EG and DC2 chassis are meant to be the same (???) whether the 15% would reach to 1.15 times 1834cc (or whatever the capacity of DC2 and DC2R's are) which is just over 2.1L, therefore - technically - allowing the use of a K20 in an EG.

  8. #128
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    Or is it the model, not the chassis that engineers would look at???

  9. #129
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    They look at the capacity of the motor fitted to the vehicle you are trying to pass, so 1.5 or 1.6 EG, max motor 1.725ltr or 1.84ltr if fitted with a 1.6, so no k20 allowed without engineering it.

    Dc2 being a B18 and 1.8, 2.07 ltrs allowable so K20 no prob.

  10. #130
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    OK! So DC2 base makes more sense for a K swap unless ultimate weight reduction or registration are not an issue you care about!

    Good to know!

  11. #131
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    I know 1.8 internals fit in 1.6 block so you can register the car as a 1.6 even though it's really 1.8. Wonder if k24 internals fit in a k20?

  12. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by crobaa View Post
    I know 1.8 internals fit in 1.6 block so you can register the car as a 1.6 even though it's really 1.8. Wonder if k24 internals fit in a k20?
    Rumor mill.... Maybe only b16b... B16a is a shorter block
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