Fake bucket seats

**tiksie** · 09-10-2011 03:31 PM

Even if you have an engineers certificate, they can still defect you for putting a non-standard part on your car.. The only difference is that you can get it cleared right away. This is the absolute worst case scenario if the police officer wants to be a real jerk.

Moral of this story, if you put something that's not standard on your car, that is a defect and that is illegal.

My friend got defected for have Recaros in his DC2R.. Even though they came out standard.

Having ADR approved seats doesn't make it legal to be used on the street, however, it will be all good for CAMS approval to be used on the track if scrutineers are picky.

**crobaa** · 09-10-2011 04:42 PM

Lol your friend got defected for standard seats?

**tiksie** · 09-10-2011 04:48 PM

Shit happens like I said.

Not a nice thing to call everyone dumb when what you are saying is clearly wrong. A lot of the guys on here have been in the game for a long time.. So sometimes you should stop and listen. Or in this case; read.

Everything is illegal in this nanny state. It's bullshit.

**crobaa** · 09-10-2011 05:13 PM

Firstly you started off your post quite rudely with the word wrong. Don't appreciate that one bit. Secondly what I'm saying is 100% right and totally by the book. What you are saying is right too, cops can defect you for legal mods. But your statement that any mod to a car is illegal is simply not true. I been out with mates who have had their entire floor cut out, chassis cut in half and new clip welded in, mini tubs etc.. Been pulled over and just handed over a certificate and not a problem. By law that is 100% legal. I only reply to posts in the same manner that people post to me

**GU357** · 09-10-2011 05:19 PM

I read through the ADR compliance PDF a while back

Any change in the seating capacity is illegal unless certified by an engineer.

And pretty much all modifications are considered illegal if the car did not come with those parts, however if those parts were an optional accessory for that vehicle but was not purchased with the vehicle but was installed later, then it will be considered legal.

No replica bucket seats are ADR compliant.
and even then only some Recaros meet ADR ie the SR3 and 4.
but then ontop of that the rails have to be compliant, which means bride rails are a NO.

so unless you have a integra vtir and are putting Bucket seats and rails from a type R in then its a no.

but who cares they pull you over what are they gonna do??

here in WA they give u a sticker and then u take it down to the pits within a week, so that gives you time to take it back to stock.

**GU357** · 09-10-2011 05:22 PM

Velo also make a ADR compliant Fixed bucket seat, but they dont say if their side mounts are ADR.

**Lukey** · 09-10-2011 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by tiksie

Everything is illegal in this nanny state. It's bullshit.

nsw aint a nanny state compared to vic!

**SuperJDM.** · 09-10-2011 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by GU357

i dunno but from what ive seen from the noob forums tiksie has a lot of haters or is a hater LOL

btw i wasnt calling him what i thought the picture ment i was just asking is that what it ment LOL

**crobaa** · 09-10-2011 09:27 PM

This part from gu357

And pretty much all modifications are considered illegal if the car did not come with those parts, however if those parts were an optional accessory for that vehicle but was not purchased with the vehicle but was installed later, then it will be considered legal.

The term vehicle applies to cars with same chassis. I am still 100% correct in that any mod can be made legal with engineers approval. Tiksie you are bringing no useful info to this argument other than 'this happened to my mate so must be true'. You can legally run any ADR seat/rail combo with engineers. If the car has the same chassis code then no engineers is needed. By chassis code I don't mean eg, dc or whatever, there's some other code only used on a design/manufacturing level that links cars together I don't know what's it's called. Manufactures use it to more easily introduce new models to the market.

**fillit** · 09-10-2011 09:48 PM

Not disagreeing with the above post, however in the scenario where you do get defected by the popos (revenue raising) chances are you won't bother arguing about eng certs (needless to say the time and money spent to obtain one) and you will just put your stock seats back in, get a rwc and have it cleared (face it, it's just easier, and they will prob dick you for other things too).

Moreso, why would you risk your life with a replica seat? it's the only thing holding you in place, some laws are arguably stupid however running replica seats is a real safety concern for the driver/passengers of the vehicle.

**crobaa** · 09-10-2011 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by fillit

Not disagreeing with the above post, however in the scenario where you do get defected by the popos (revenue raising) chances are you won't bother arguing about eng certs (needless to say the time and money spent to obtain one) and you will just put your stock seats back in, get a rwc and have it cleared (face it, it's just easier, and they will prob dick you for other things too).

Moreso, why would you risk your life with a replica seat? it's the only thing holding you in place, some laws are arguably stupid however running replica seats is a real safety concern for the driver/passengers of the vehicle.

Totally agree with everything there. I actually once saw a new g6e ford that has hit a pole and the seat was ripped out. That was a totally standard unmodified car

**GU357** · 10-10-2011 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by crobaa

This part from gu357

And pretty much all modifications are considered illegal if the car did not come with those parts, however if those parts were an optional accessory for that vehicle but was not purchased with the vehicle but was installed later, then it will be considered legal.

The term vehicle applies to cars with same chassis. I am still 100% correct in that any mod can be made legal with engineers approval. Tiksie you are bringing no useful info to this argument other than 'this happened to my mate so must be true'. You can legally run any ADR seat/rail combo with engineers. If the car has the same chassis code then no engineers is needed. By chassis code I don't mean eg, dc or whatever, there's some other code only used on a design/manufacturing level that links cars together I don't know what's it's called. Manufactures use it to more easily introduce new models to the market.

exactly thats what im trying to say but you explained it better