For the sound system experts! Need your help. 1998 Honda Civic Ek1

[PHO]

I personally want to upgrade to the tempo's. Just for the tweeter adjustment. The harshness of the tweeter just annoys me.

As tbm said, me recording will not do anything for you, besides for you to know what song I'm listening to.

If you're going the morel's, go for a jaycar response 2x150rms amp. Thatll be more than enough. Add a monoblock later on when/if you get a sub

My tweeter is installed where tbm's is, its probably the best place to put it. I don't have rears or a sub. Don't need them. If you really want have the feeling of the car being full of sound. Get a sub, or just run your stock speakers at the back from the headunit and keep them low.

You can run the maximo's off the headunit. But you will have a lot more mid bass if you amp it (a lot more). If I were you, amp them, why buy good speakers if you're only feeding it minimal power and not using it to its potential?

If your planning for a sub(now or in the future). Get a 4ga wiring kit now. If not. 8ga will be enough.

And yes, the best way is to listen to the speakers yourself. If you want to know why, go to any high end store and go to the focal board. Tell the guy to go from the cheapest to the most expensive (all of them) you will notice the difference, lower end ones will seem more muddy and vague. While the expensive ones sound awesome. I had a friend with morel's and they sounded the best out of other sub 200$ speakers

[Honda]

Would I have to cut the deep hole where the arrow is pointing?

Do you reckon the tempo 5 or maximo 5 will fit perfectly in the ek1? They are 5.25inch

[Honda]

This is what mine currently looks like:


Is this kit any good?
http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/car-s...ing-kit/451296

[TbM]

Would I have to cut the deep hole where the arrow is pointing?

Do you reckon the tempo 5 or maximo 5 will fit perfectly in the ek1? They are 5.25inch

If you look at the picture i provided of my speaker with the door trim on you will be able to see where ive cut.

I dont know off the top of my head, you have an uncut door panel tho so get out a ruler and look up the speaker measurments and answer it yourself.

[Honda]

I personally want to upgrade to the tempo's. Just for the tweeter adjustment. The harshness of the tweeter just annoys me.

Interesting.. How long have you had the Maximo for? and how deep are your spacers?

The jaycar response 2x150rms amp sounds good for about $160~ on eBay

I think it will suffice for the tempo's too as their RMS is 120W

[TbM]

I personally want to upgrade to the tempo's. Just for the tweeter adjustment. The harshness of the tweeter just annoys me.

i think the tempos only have +db attenuation(makes the tweeter louder). heres a quote from Winno about installing splits, explains it better than i ever could and should help you fix your issue.

BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, TURN OFF ALL EQ AND BASS/TREBLE SETTINGS, TURN OFF ALL HIGH PASS AND LOW PASS FILTERS - SET EVERYTHING BACK TO FACTORY DEFAULTS OR ZERO POINTS.

There's three areas you need to focus on to begin with. I've gone into quite a bit of detail but these are simply;
1. Ensure your mids are mounted properly
2. Work on your tweeter angling
3. Adjusting eq settings in the head unit.

So let's begin.

If you can, make sure that your mids are fitted snugly with no gaps between or around them, their door spacers (if you're using any at all) and the door. Any 'leaks' will allow the sound from behind the speaker to come through and cancel the sound from the front of the speaker. This can result in a thinner sound because the bass is being cancelled out slightly.
Fixing this issue enhances the bass and let's the speaker perform properly and give you to sound you're supposed to hear. It also helps balance the sound of the whole system relative to the sound of the tweeters.

Some people even go as far as sealing up the entire door with sound deadening sheets to get truely striking results from 6.5" drivers. I'm not saying you should be going this this extreme but consider if you can, maybe sealing up some of the smaller service holes in the doors as well as securing your drivers properly.

Now that we have that done, let's look at your tweeters.
Many systems with tweeters mounted away from the mids and up high 'can' sound a little harsh. Some people choose to put their tweeters down low in the kick panels or much lower in the doors to combat this. It works but tends to result in a sound that comes from down near your knees rather than straight ahead at or very near head height.

Let's stay with a high mount postion for now and take a look at what we can do with their angles.

Trust me on this one, if the tweeters are in surface and angle mount pods, try swiveling them to face more towards each other. I'd even try swiveling them so far that they start to fire forward and actually into the windscreen.

Try it and see what happens to the sound. Most drivers start to sound 'quieter' when you are sitting out of their direct path or their 'axis point'.
Many high end speaker systems (I'm talking about speakers costing as much as or more than $100k) use this principle to stunning effect. It may also give your sound stage more depth of field so that it's not all so 'in your face'.

When you get things sounding better and you feel that it's as good as it'll get, THEN, and only then should we be moving on to some of the things your head unit can do.

Set your amp to play normal. Switch off all high pass and low pass filters because they don't do what you've been told previously. They're for other stuff.
If you head unit has them, turn them off there too.

Go to your head unit equalizer and if you can, select a frequency around 8 or 10khz to adjust. Depending on how effect your swiveling was with the tweeters will determine how much you may want to turn down the volume on the selected frequency.
If you don't have frequency options up this high, try choosing the next highest one down. Hopefully it'll be something above 5khz. If not, you may just be better off using your standard treble adjustment instead.

If you do have a few frequency bands up high to play with, try knocking back the volume a little on two or three of them and see how you go.

This should help things quite a bit overall. And don't forget that things will settle down from new as your speakers are played more over the next few weeks.

Take your time, and have fun.