what's the biggest handicap for DC4???

[Felix]

Haveing a Type R Transmission in a GSI is not going to make the GSI quicker than a Type R or even a VTiR. And thats that!

If you beat type R's and Vtir's in your GSI, then i'd suggest that the other drivers either - can't drive or they weren't trying to race you, OR they had a car full of fat people.

[Felix]

What difference does having a type r tranny in a GSi make?

Nothing to overall power, just make the shifts and the take off SLIGHTLY quicker.

[sydteg21]

if that's the case ,why people bother to pay thousands of dollar to change a type r or B16 tranny ,they can just get a short shifter to achieve the fact you said

[Felix]

Because the box is stronger and ratios slightly diferent, and because the "feel" is much better.
And if you have killed your GSI box then since you gotta replace it you might as well get a type R box, or if your going to do track work then a stronger gearbox is required (such as in my case). That would be why there is people upgrading to type R boxes, or they might have other mods done that will complement having a type R gear box..
If you think your going to be quicker then a vtir or as quick as a type r, because you have type r tranny, then your wrong.

[GreekWarrior]

Is it worth putting a type r tranny in a GSi?

[dc2dc2dc2]

dc4 is teh gay .

[Felix]

Is it worth putting a type r tranny in a GSi?

If you can justify spending a couple of grand for a slightly stronger and better feeling gearbox. So the answer is probably - No.

[mugenman]

to all you gsi owners out there you have the lowest of all 90's model tegs. you wont beat a v-tir or type under same sercumstances. e.g drivers ability and cars overall condition. why do you think honda spent all that money developing v-tec. i have a dc2 and dont go saying that i can beat a type R because they probably weren't trying. Stick a turbo on it and get back to us.
(sorry to all those realistic gsi owners i have just offended)

[sydteg21]

when did i say that i beat a type r? use your brain to think type R has type r tranny and vtec, the one i used has type r tranny with lsd and nearly stock gsi body. HTF can i beat a type r without modifying internal

[DC2108]

ok so kool

[string]

I suggest you all download a program call "CarTest".

You will find that slapping a B16/GSR/Type-R gearbox on an LS (B18A/B) motor will give you hardly any performance at all. You will just have to change gears earlier, it will be a pain in the ass.

Close ratio's are good, not short ratios. You will be faster off the line as you will get to the upper rpm range faster, but thats where it ends.

When you start to make serious power, even n/a, in an LS it is just stupid to have a short ratio gearbox, you will get serious traction problems, even with an LSD.

GreekWarrior: Is your car seriously 1146kg? Thats insane. I took my 90 LS to the weighbridge the other day and it weighed in at 1060kg with spare and 15kg of fuel... What the hell is in a DC2/4?

[sydteg21]

Doesn't matter, i don't really want to argue that. I'm just want to discuss it. If i did offense some vti-r owner, i say sorry here.