B16 stroker kit

[BlitZ]

why do people stroke a 1.6 to 1.8 when u can get a b18c? is there any advantages with the longer stroke?

is there any reason why the b16b utlised the same block as the b18c and not the b16a (correct me if im wrong)??

[ginganggooly]

why do people stroke a 1.6 to 1.8 when u can get a b18c? is there any advantages with the longer stroke?

is there any reason why the b16b utlised the same block as the b18c and not the b16a (correct me if im wrong)??

never understood the logic behind stroking the b16's either. would have thought that due to being able to fit longer rods into the thing, the b18c would be a technically better bet. Probably cheaper too... i'd hate to think of how much getting a toda stroker kit supplied and installed into a b16a would cost.

[Slow96GSR]

These are some pages with good info, some are forums and some are papers. Some are for Chevy/ford and some are Honda related. All will give you a basic idea with out me having to type it all out. Here, here, here, and here.

Yes a Toda kit costs a lot, so does a Crower kit. But no everyone wants to swap out blocks just so they can have the motor already set there. A stroker kit does more then just displacement. After you read those papers you'll see why. Avg cost is $1,500USD + machining and install. So like 2kAUD then like 250 S&H and what ever the cost of labor is down there. How much is a NEW block and NEW internals. You have to remember these kits have ZERO miles on them. Never a guarantee a used parts isn't bad, same with new but less likely.

[Dylanamus]

Probably work out cheaper to use the Toda stroker kit if, instead of comparing it to just an ITR engine swap, you compare it to a swap with aftermarket internals - which is precisely what you get from the Toda kit. Also compare Toda's quoted cost of worksmanship for the stoker to Toda's quoted cost of a b18cR engine swap. It will be inaccurate to compare Toda's cost for installing the stroker to a small local workshop's cost of an engine swap.
Personally I think if you already have a b16a car and are thinking 1.8, the Toda stroker kit isn't a bad idea, especially if you plan on going beyond ITR components - ie aftermarket intake, header, headwork etc... then you'll just end up spending months trying to sell off all the ITR bits and pieces anyway...

[**Ghost**]

has neone considered that even if u say its the same amount of dollars for a Stroker Kit and for a B18CR (which its not, a B18Cr costs around $6000) ur getting in the end

1. an old engine if u get the b18Cr

2. an essentially as new as can get rebuilt engine from bottom end up for the stroker kit?

I can definitely see the advantages of #2

[ginganggooly]

has neone considered that even if u say its the same amount of dollars for a Stroker Kit and for a B18CR (which its not, a B18Cr costs around $6000) ur getting in the end

1. an old engine if u get the b18Cr

2. an essentially as new as can get rebuilt engine from bottom end up for the stroker kit?

I can definitely see the advantages of #2

i've seen b18c7's going for the 6-7k mark with the fancy shmancy transmission. add maybe 1500 to swap it out, plus the money you get on selling the b16a, and who knows, you may get the lot done for $6k...

the toda racing website lists the stroker kit as $5280.00. Add the labour charges of a trustworthy engine builder, and you're probably looking at closer to $10k all up.

anyway... what happens when you stick a stroker crank into a b16a block, i'm imagining that the r:s ratio suffers a tad.

[EGB16A]

i've seen b18c7's going for the 6-7k mark with the fancy shmancy transmission. add maybe 1500 to swap it out, plus the money you get on selling the b16a, and who knows, you may get the lot done for $6k...

the toda racing website lists the stroker kit as $5280.00. Add the labour charges of a trustworthy engine builder, and you're probably looking at closer to $10k all up.

anyway... what happens when you stick a stroker crank into a b16a block, i'm imagining that the r:s ratio suffers a tad.

Roughly $8k fitted etc, but don't think about cams or anything else for that price. And we all know the price of cams/ headers/ ehaust/ intake blah blah blah.... just incase your interested

[spardikis]

hey guys.. interesting read.. here are the plans that my brother in NZ is currently doing... and umm you can get a stroker kit from the states for 1200us including eagle crank, rods, rod bolts forged pistons and crank n rod bearings...

anyway. b16a block, bore to 84mm, stroke to 1800cc, darton sleeves and semi closed deck, crank rods pistons. all on boost!! hoping to do 300kw+ atw on 18psi

oh yeah and building, assembling everything ourselves (meaning him) if u have any questions email him.. .jakepitsville99@hotmail.com