Just called Vic roads and spoke with someone who told me that following is illegal for Green P platers:
- Pod Filter
- Intake
- Exhaust
They really do mean quite literally, anything that enhances engine performance.....
According to a conversation with a Vicroads employee, any engine conversion is illegal unless the engine you are putting in came as an 'option.' What does that mean vicroads??? Does that mean that putting in a D16a8 would be 'ok' as they came in the EG Civics. But is that an 'option?'
Vic Roads was very ambiguous even on the phone.
Spoke to Archie who does the engineer certificates, and he said that swapping over engines is fine, just as long as the engine isn't older, and just as long as its within the power to weight ratio for a P -plater.
Wow what a mix up of information... But things got even clearer.
I called back vicroads and was given the Power to weight ratio formula which is:
Power (KW) / Weight x 100
For a p plater, it must not be over 100kw. The current vicroads website has a different formula, the one above is the new one to use.
Conclusion for me:
If I want to do an engine swap, I can do one without having to get an engineers certificate only if I find an engine replacement identical to the engine I have in my car. Link from Vicroads:
"1. Replacement engine is identical to the original engine, or is an option allowed by the manufacturer for the same model vehicle
The optional engine must be offered in Australia by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle (or certified variants). The change of engine may be recorded by VicRoads provided that the registered operator or a motor mechanic, or dealer in that make of vehicle or an Automotive Engineer signs a declaration certifying the engine is optional for the vehicle model, and that all modifications made by the manufacturer for the same vehicle model with that optional engine have been completed."
However, if I want to get a higher capacity engine of a different model, the engine must not be older than the build of the chassis. AND, the power to weight ratio using the above formula, must not exceed 100killerwasps. AND, I will also require a VASS engineers certificate, which quote from Archie Robertson is $680.
Below from vicroads as well:
"2. Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used
You will need to attend a VicRoads Customer Service Centre for an inspection of the vehicle to confirm the new engine details. You will also need to complete a Change of Vehicle Description form [PDF 24kb] and provide VicRoads with:
a VASS Approval Certificate from a VicRoads Vehicle Assessment Signatory
an original receipt for the purchase of the engine as proof of ownership of the engine"
Questiarinos:
1. Weight of a Honda Civic EG BReeze 1992? Or just approx weight of a EG hatchback?
2. In the second quote above from vicraods it states "Replacement engine is not of a type offered by the vehicle manufacturer as an option for that vehicle or where alterations, or changes to the vehicle's frame or structure are made, and/or specially fabricated supports or structures are used" - Is this required when doing an engine transplant for a b16a?
Archie Robertson 9729 9776



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