Hi Guys,
Just seeing if anyone can help out here. I am in the market for a new car:

Honda Civic Auto VTI (the base model)

Looking around it seems that almost all of the dealers are offering $25,000 drive away (including metallic paint).

Based on that I feel that I could possibly get a better price considering everyone is offering that without negotiation.
However, I want to get it for $24,000 (including metallic paint) and 5 year warranty.

Is that too unreasonable? Just seeing how much did you guys pay from your and which dealership.

Help would be really appreciated. Its very annoying that the whole car industry isn't transparent. So, you don't know dealing with dealers whether you getting ripped off or not. I don't mind paying $25,000 if I am sure that on else is paying lesser than that. I actually got offer for $24,500 today.