Hi SoxOz,

Thanks for the reply. As I said I am an older new rider, and yes the VT400 looks very sweet.

I notice here in NSW they are hard to find secon hand. Because of that I was looking at a Hyosung gv250 which is not as weighty as the Honda but I might be able to handle better.

Mind you, the Hyosung would be settling for seconds but it might be a way of learning better and then moving to the Honda. I really like the style of the Honda, it has the lower seat height and isnt a super powerful bike for an old bloke.

Because I am still on my auto license, I cant test ride it. I nwould just buy either the Hyosung or Honda, take it to the sisters place down south where she has a huge area and do all my practice there. I have been to HART and got a 1 hour lesson on a manual and could go around their track OK so I just need to practice myself.

Yes, I think if money wasnt an issue, the Honda would be my pick.