I dunno guys.......... traffic light grand prixs really have no merits to claim which car is faster.

What determines a car is faster? if you're racing to 60kmh, the car with the higher torque wins. if you're racing to 160kmh then the car with more power wins.

theres too many variables like launch technique, and even if you were doing a rolling start, not everyone shifts gears very fast.

not to mention that there are so many cars on the street in a poor state of tune thats its not funny.

I would say the Mazda sp23 is a fast car, the B16A civic is a fast car, and so is the celica. But can't really say which is faster by racing on the street.

e.g. In my younger days, a stock hyundai excel lined me up at the traffic lights in my EK4. He actually beat me to 80kmh easily, by which time he was too far ahead to catch up without going to crazy speeds.