I'm probably going to get bias opinions here but i'm in the market to upgrade my EG Civic and ever since I was MUNCHED by one 2 years ago I've been interested in an 02-04 Renault Clio Sport. Now i've been on the Renault forums for a few months now and you should see the crap that happens with these cars. They are poorly built!!! But you can't escape the fact that they are an incredibly quick car. I would love to get back into a new Honda and the only one that is within my price range (Looking to spend $18,000 - $21,000) is the Gen 5 lude. I would love to have a car that is close to the performance of the RSC but more importantly I want the reliability that Honda delivers. So I need to know what sort of power can you extract from a VTI-R with standard mods and do you think it would stand up to the RSC after those mods ??