DC5R second gear not going in properly

**mugsee** · 17-02-2007 06:59 PM

Sorry I should have been more clear in what I said. OEM is great if the box doesn't have any issues and the shifts are as per brand new, however if you do get 2nd gear grinding or notchiness, aftermarket fluids can help out.

**bakaduo** · 17-02-2007 08:44 PM

Well if it helps, i just had my DC5R serviced for 80k so they did all the oils and at first the problem disappeared for a while, but after about a fortnight, it started happening again! so as far as i can tell it seems to be a pretty common problem. and i don't think its got much to do with technique as many of us have different techniques but still eventuate to the same problem...

although as a side note i do find that during warm to hot days that if i shift between 2-3k then there's a problem, you really have to kick hard on the clutch to get the thing in there!

**DC5TYPER** · 17-02-2007 09:18 PM

I use Motul Gearbox Oil and it stopped it for a long time. rarely does it happen again.

By memory I think its sumthin to do with the bushes and 2nd gear to close to sumthin else so it rubs easy. Using very good gearbox oil lubricates the gear and sinchro's better and helps alot against rubbing.

**matt** · 18-02-2007 01:19 AM

definately something pretty common to the dc5 6 speed box.
i also find that its better when hot, by that i mean that it generally takes a few higher rpm shifts to really free it up, on mine anyway.
i did change the oil bout 15000km ago and it did help for a while but its back again, i may try some aftermarket oil next time.

out of interest has anyone had this fixed as per the service bulletin for the RSX-S as my car is still under honda warranty for about another 9 months. i did take it in and they could feel the problem but they said they would have to open the box first before they cover it and if they decided its not then i have to pay for it it even just to put it back in. at the time i didn't push it but interested if any one has hadit fixed?

**obsessionz** · 18-02-2007 02:52 AM

anyone have a real fix? the solutions given suck ... lol ive changed the damn gear box oil does shit all..

**matt** · 18-02-2007 09:27 AM

the real fix is shown in the PDF on the link the p3p5y posted, did you have a look through there? it invoves replacing the 5+6 gear syncros and a few other bits. tho if you have a search though the transmission thread on CRSX some have had success with the fix while others havent so i would do more research before you do and i dont know how much succss there has been getting honda aus to fix under warranty hence my last post.

**p3p5y** · 18-02-2007 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by fuze

i know it may sound silly but change your seat alittle foward.. it happend to me and ever since i moved my seat foward i dont have that problem of shifting into 2nd.. its be couse your to far (maybe) and its cousing the shifting into an angle (insted of a stright line, your forcing it into an angle position)..

LoL, I pulled my chair forward a little bit a few days ago to see if this would actually help.

Surprisingly it actually made my shifting a whole lot smoother. The grinding I believe is still there, but it's not as bad as it used to be anymore. It only grinds when I apply too much force when changing from one gear to another (say, from gear 2 to 3). Then it would feel grindy going from gear 3 to 4.

My gear stick slides quite nicely from first to second, then from second to third. I can shift effortlessly with two fingers on the knob.

So, give this a go. It doesn't hurt to try and if it doesn't work, then you'll know that it's not your shifting technique that's at fault.

**45SET** · 19-02-2007 04:04 PM

what gearbox oil did you use?

i experianced this problem when i first bought my r.... I use Redline lightweight shockproof gear oil.

the previous owner used this oil and had it in the car for about close to 15k km.... so it was dead, so i was getting the 2nd gear crunch. i changed it, and it was gone, cold, hot, high rpm, low rpm... felt like a hot knife through butter. the oil is about 10k old... so it'll need a change shortly, as i am getting the 2nd gear crunch on cold starts.

on a side note... if you want to set your seat up "correctly" have is so you can rest your wrist on the top of the steering wheel, with a slight bend in your elbows.... and so that you can fully depress the clutch.... with a slight bend in your knee.

hope this helps dude... if you try all the above (using a none OEM oil), changing seat possition etc etc it might be something inside the box... also how many ks on the car? this might give the guru's a better idea.

**obsessionz** · 19-02-2007 04:11 PM

Guys all of the DC5r's are doing this ... its not the way we shift or the oil we use or either the seat position... its something mechanically wrong with the gear box... syncros 2nd gear*

Honda should have a fix for this if anyone knows a fix that Honda has came up wit let us all know thanks..