new whiteline sway bar kit for ek

[EG30]

Hi Whiteline,

I got a Whiteline adj rear bar, along with the rear subframe reo kit, front and rear strut braces fitted about 9 mths ago by the highly regarded Wilkinson Suspension in Perth.

Could you advise me where I stand with regards to my current setup? ie is there a newer/improved version out there currently? Pls find images attached.

Ever since I had the kit fitted there has always been noises ( tock, bang ) whenever I corner hard, esp on hard 90 deg left hand turns ( may be to do with the LH rear wheel off the ground and spring unseated as well? ). I thought the noises would go away as the bushes settle in but they haven't.

I must stress that your products have totally transformed the way my car handled and I haven't experienced any handling problems associated with the noises, so merely an annoyance.

Should I 1st check the tightness of all the bolts 1st? If so what are the recommended torque settings? Pls advise.

Thanks.

[bennjamin]

EG30 - much of the noise is associated by the heavy duty bushes. Either not enough lube or over tightening will make them "snap" and "crack" under pivoting angles and hard cornering etc.
I know since i had a whiteline kit too and the noise was sometimes scary but no problems what so ever.

[EG30]

Thanks for the info bennjamin, will try to lube the bushes myself at some stage. The noises are scary alright esp to passengers, not only do they have to endure the cornering forces they didn't think my car is capable of but also those loud bangs....

[BlitZ]

hey matie..
you have overtighten it

you see in this pic http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img4587vn0.jpg

the D mount was not designed to sit flush (God knows why whiteline used such a mount).. PM whiteline to confirm, but im 99% sure as i was told specifically not to tighten it til its flush by whiteline when i got the brace in my haydays

Hi Whiteline,

I got a Whiteline adj rear bar, along with the rear subframe reo kit, front and rear strut braces fitted about 9 mths ago by the highly regarded Wilkinson Suspension in Perth.

Could you advise me where I stand with regards to my current setup? ie is there a newer/improved version out there currently? Pls find images attached.

Ever since I had the kit fitted there has always been noises ( tock, bang ) whenever I corner hard, esp on hard 90 deg left hand turns ( may be to do with the LH rear wheel off the ground and spring unseated as well? ). I thought the noises would go away as the bushes settle in but they haven't.

I must stress that your products have totally transformed the way my car handled and I haven't experienced any handling problems associated with the noises, so merely an annoyance.

Should I 1st check the tightness of all the bolts 1st? If so what are the recommended torque settings? Pls advise.

Thanks.

[EG30]

thanks for the advice blitz.

you meant the 'U' clamp over the yellow sway bar D bushes being overtightened? What do you mean by flush? ie flush against which bit?

[BlitZ]

thanks for the advice blitz.

you meant the 'U' clamp over the yellow sway bar D bushes being overtightened? What do you mean by flush? ie flush against which bit?

yeah i meant the U Clamp... you see how the clamp looks like -u-
The end - tabs arent meant to be flugh against the reinforcement..

[bennjamin]

yeah i meant the U Clamp... you see how the clamp looks like -u-
The end - tabs arent meant to be flugh against the reinforcement..

....and no where does it say to do this ( in the instructions etc)

[BlitZ]

....and no where does it say to do this ( in the instructions etc)

i was told by wojtek at whiteline.... its best to send them a PM ... they could have changed different saddle brackets because i was one of the first to run the kits after the reinfrocements were made

[EG30]

ok I'll try and back the U clamp nuts off a bit and see if the noises improve

[Whiteline]

G’day,

EG30 - As you are probably aware by now, it is possible that dry or over-tightened bushes can generate some noises, which may sound like cracking due to the fact that a polyurethane bush acts as a plain bearing. It is therefore important that the bush is well lubricated and not over-tightened. In the case of your swaybar mounting arrangement, it is quite easy just to keep tightening the U-bolt nuts too much, so it must be done with some care.

Before you do anything else, I suggest that you disconnect the endlinks, and rotate the swaybar up and down. If the noise is still there, then it’s probably your bushes. If that’s the case, proceed with the removal, clean all surfaces and re-lubricate bushes and re-install making sure not to over-tighten the assembly. If you find that the saddle is some way off the bracket, you may like to pack some washers between the saddle and the bracket to give you a more positive stop.

bennjamin - We do not mention this in the fitting instructions, as it is just one of those things that require some mechanical knowledge and dare I say common sense.

Hope that this helps.

If it’s still a problem, please feel free to contact us direct.

Regards,
Wojtek.
Whiteline Automotive.

[Limbo]

I've seen also alot of people putting the stupid thing upside down.
I have to say that the bar itself is very good quality, but i have noted that the bolts supplied seem to be of lower quality, and there were not enough washers supplied. Mine also seem to be missing 2 bolts for the endlink which i ended up using some chassis bolts i had. I have the 18mm to 22mm adjustable, and its the first generation

I have reinstalled my bar 3 times.
The first time it made alot of noise, even though i used extra lithium grease to lube all parts. I also installed a strut brace over the main bolt. I did not that the main bolt could be better and easier to install if there was a tip on the bolt like the OEM product.

To fix this i installed more washers, spring washers and larger flat washers for the endlinks as the bushes were warping. Again i applied lots of lithum grease. It was good for a couple of months and then the noise came back.

Third, i got an ASR kit to strengthen the swaybar, and it has been great since. No noise and you can feel the stiffness in the rear end when cornering hard. The quality of the ASR is extremely good compared to the bolts and brackets of whiteline.

Now i've seen the new kit on another car on the hoist and it does seem better, but on this particular car i could see that the raised piping for the brackets were bending. The end brackets still do not have the strength of the ASR rear support.

Overall the swaybars are excellent, but the rear supporting brackets need more work and better quality parts. I guess it is partly Honda's fault in not making stronger sub-frames, but i think whiteline needs to look at the quality of its products.

P.S i still run my whiteline swaybar on the ASR kit, and its been perfect ever since

[EG30]

Thanks Wojtek for the info, will try that 1st and let you know how I go via PM.