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  1. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonGilholme View Post
    Thats true.

    Probably better of usin the OEM one...
    if its a dc2r i reckon the factory one is better.
    if its a dc2 vtir or gsi then the xforce or megan one is ok.

    the gain had by the xforce and megan arent that much to justify replacing the oem typeR header.

  2. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by teaseR View Post
    just wondering whats better out of the 2 for dc2r
    alittle tight on budget so have to settle on one of these
    would like to hear why for choice and from experience
    thanks
    He says DC2R in the first line.

  3. #15
    ok thanks for replies
    ill save up for good stuff

  4. #16
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    does anyone here have any proof of one losing power by putting these parts in comparison to stock? or do we all talk out of our asses? paying double the price doesnt mean youll get a part that performs 2 or 3 of 4 fold better. if i can get a part that makes 2kw less at half the price id be interested

    it aint a ferrari, its a great car, i own one so i know, but if someone has realtime experience id like to know just like the OP.

  5. #17
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    Instead of buying new xforce headers, why not buy good headers 2nd hand?
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    do header lose its performance level after yrs of using?
    凸-_-凸

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3ntAL_l2 View Post
    do header lose its performance level after yrs of using?
    as long as they aren't bent they will be fine. would get a new gasket though and if you want you could clean out the carbon build up


  8. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by m3ntAL_l2 View Post
    do header lose its performance level after yrs of using?
    If it has a flex pipe, check that it is damaged or leaking. And yes, I agree with getting new gaskets too.
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  9. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Instead of buying new xforce headers, why not buy good headers 2nd hand?
    because theres no good second hand headers for sale!!!

  10. #22
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    Ok here's my experience, i've done the cheap header route and the expensive route.

    2nd hand headers, just make sure they don't have cracks or big bumps, small bumps are expected. Rem they are only pipes so there is no difference in performance unless they have lots of carbon buildup but then you can clean that up.

    Cheap headers - they do do abit of difference, but usually they have clearance problems from either fans or being too low, otherwise not too bad. I generally would stay away from 4-1s on the cheap headers as most i've seen are not made very well and are too low and hit things. Also stay away from US 4-1s as you might not clear the clutch slave.

    Noise - all higher flowing headers have a whooshing noise, most OEM headers have defusers in them to stop the noise, also the headers are stainless steel or mild steel with very thin walls. You OEM headers are generally cast (bar ITR headers). Thus the niose comes through more. Its the same even with the expensive headers, but not so much as they generally use better materials. One way to reduce is to wrap them if you have the problem. Just make sure you follow the instructions and wrap proeprly, otherwise they will crack over time.

    P.S make sure the installer does a good job also otherwise all your hard work is for naught
    Evo IX - THE FINAL EVOLUTION

  11. #23
    so would u say cheap megan 4-2-1 will do the trick.
    it doesnt matter if i lose say 2kw and saving $400.

  12. #24
    The header is where the power is. i'd spend bigger on the header and then get a cat back thats a bit cheaper to even out the price.

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