CTR vs. ITR

[zco]

hey ppls.. i dont actually know much about CTR's or ITR's .. can someone help me.. i just wanna know some specs on both cars..which car in ur opinion is better and why..and the differences in the engines of both cars.. which car is better at handling and straight line drag.. some opinions from ek9 or ITR owners would help thanks

[type one]

handling? straight line drag?

answer: 1.6 vs 1.8 (in stock form on track ITR would win hands down straight line and point to point ceteris paribus)

as for the specs - internet baby

[joneblaze]

*agrees*
There are countless threads filled with information regarding the two models. Don't be lazy, do a SEARCH and read for yourself. It's better to sift through information than have a few decent replies here (and waste ppl's time) and a half dozen half baked posts from people who don't know.

[wynode]

handling? straight line drag?

answer: 1.6 vs 1.8 (in stock form on track ITR would win hands down straight line and point to point ceteris paribus)

as for the specs - internet baby

Why would the ITR win hands down? Is that just because it has an extra 200cc?

[Da1nONLY]

http://sohc.vtec.net/video/ctr/civicr-09.avi

[Perry]

on a striaght i think the itr will win by a bit, but on turns i think ctr will handle way better then itr because of the weight difference between the 2 models

[VTEC16]

on a striaght i think the itr will win by a bit, but on turns i think ctr will handle way better then itr because of the weight difference between the 2 models

and what is the weight difference that would make the civic handle way better???

[EK9]

ITR will beat CTR in straight line cos it has 200c more, more torque, and not that much heavier... also i've driven both, u can feel the power in an ITR.

ITR handles better than CTR too... suspension is harder, car is very well balanced, and ppl wouldn't call it "world's best handling front wheel drive car" for no reason oh, and i've had both cars in my family so i'm speaking from experience... and maybe my EK9's suspension is whacked out, but it's more driveable daily then the DC2R is. plus, if i could get the ITR's kind of handling in my CTR, then everything will be perfect

yup, search is ur friend... this is one of them widely discussed topics around, even here on ozhonda.

[Da1nONLY]

ErRrr
yeah what IS the weight difference?
the ITR is around 1080Kg....
i think the CTR is around the same as well.. =)

[type one]

on a striaght i think the itr will win by a bit, but on turns i think ctr will handle way better then itr because of the weight difference between the 2 models

i disagree.... and did everyone miss my "ceteris paribus" all things being equal throw away comment??

the diff in the weight in my mind.. in stock form is negligible... what track are we racing on?? let's get GT3 out and try it LOL....

and in a straight line the ITR would kick the CTR's ass... c'mon ... torque factor alone - the 1.6 is revvy but low down has little guts... if u don't keep it in vtec like a master then whoosh ITR has passed you in the corner... can't see the CTR point to point faster on PI or Winton or wherever...

[eknine]

did everyone miss my "ceteris paribus" all things being equal throw away comment??

no..i did not miss it Infact i have to agree with type-one.

since we are discussing CTR vs ITR and both being in the same b-series family. lets see it this way, honda does not make one variant or model more powerful than the other, in fact the price is a reflection of performance.

in that sense if we starts talking abt a modded car, its only fair to say that the one who can write a bigger cheque would probably have it hands down
by that IMHO, i still view that by comparing a hybrid to a modded by stock configued vehicle is like comparing apples to oranges-> esp if there is a difference in displacement.

[zco]

i have searched on ozhonda.. but only found vtir vs CTR.. so yeh..