JUN vs. TODA: Camshafts

[grumpy rooster]

how much power is yours making grumpy??

i remember reading somewhere on ozhonda that it was around the 130kw region... is that about right?

if so, my edumacated guess is that the gen 2 crx running a very similar time and terminal speed probably has a similar output...

given the law of diminishing returns... it is my internet expert opinion that there is more than a little truth in the "shitload" comment from online
10sec crx vs 12 sec crx... it's a world of difference.

Yes thats right, about 130kw. Our car is probably a bit lighter than the HiPower CRX so they might have a bit more, say 140kw. But the Online boys would have to be making over 180kw (~250hp) with theirs. Remember I'm talking at the wheels figures here.

I wonder how close I am.....

[.::F[L]Y::.]

I guess people who spent a heap of moeny on there cars dont want to embrass themselves when they run a crap time down the 1/4 mile. I know for a fact that our stock b18c7 motor with bolt-ons was much quicker than a built engine from a well-known workshop. Some people are mostly all talk and no action. Just because they spent more money than some of us, doesnt necessarily mean they are quicker than you. Our timeslips talks for itself.

I know how you feel when you beat someone and they say their car is built for track. Its all jsut bulshit.. haha There jsut too gutless to admit a loss.

Our cars are not specifically built for straight line, we are more into circuit racing. But hey, we still get out there and put down respectable times just to prove a point. And yes, our cars are daily driven.

amen....

[Hipowerracing]

cmon boys stop bickering.. no point to prove ourselves just help the boy choose the right cams for his car..

havent put our crx on the dyno yet.. but hey who gives a shit.. our b20 is N.A. using JUN parts and it works so.. thats my experience if yur car makes more power or is faster using other cams or components just post it up and share..

the boy is not building a drag weapon, he is building something like the one600 CRX street driven everyday work car. which is why i share with him on my cam settings, and cams selection. if you dont agree with what i say then why dont you post up your ideas and your methods.. and the boy can choose which side of the coin he wants to listen too...

end of the day i use JUN CAMSHAFTS STAGE 3 and my everyday drive car does a 12.38 113mph with a slipping clutch and no slicks. NA.

btw check this out pretty accurate i think..
http://www.zerotohundred.com/amf/amfcalculator.htm

[barefootbonzai]

btw check this out pretty accurate i think..
http://www.zerotohundred.com/amf/amfcalculator.htm

This link is sweet as. I reckon the weight + MPH is about perfect.

Shows you how much difference just weight really does.

But i think the power reading is US hp so it's much higher than what anyone would get here.

[AsH_]

wow watta big thread...

cost differences the toda are more expensive...

yeh its my everyday car...

but i'd like to toughen the car up and give it some more power...

and ppl plz dont tell me to turbo it as i been told that so many times...

NA best !!!

sure it'll take me a while to save up, but i want the job done right... if im going to invest time and money i want to bring out the potential of my car... my cars handling is fantastic, just need to give it some more power and strength...

its not going to be the best car on the roads but its my car, doesnt matter if its a THE NA Powerhouse... end of the day... im always going to enjoy the car...

[Civic Type R]

btw check this out pretty accurate i think..
http://www.zerotohundred.com/amf/amfcalculator.htm

nice: I entered in my old civic.

Horsepower Results - 1/4 Mile Method

Your Honda Civic weighs about 2570 pounds and can complete a 1/4 mile in about 14.16 seconds. That means that you've got about 178.91 HP at the wheels, and about 232.58 HP at the flywheel.

[e240]

For the comments on the driveability of Spec C's, I'm not sure how many of you who commented have actually used Spec C's and not just rely on hear say.

I'm using Spec C's and have no issue with both idling and driveability. The car pulls pretty smoothly from idle, has really good midrange. Even though the hi cam comes in later (7500rpm -I rev till 9 so it gives me another 1500rpm), the engine makes good power all the way for its class. Overall, I'm happy with the performance and driveability for a 1.6.

The only caveat is, the heads need to be built well with matching parts.
The work was done at Toda Australia.

[ginganggooly]

I've driven an LS/Vtec running c's. I thought the bottom end was pretty healthy, quite similar to my b18c with itr cams. When it hit vtec at 7x00rpm- hoo boy... weapon.

[Benson]

For the comments on the driveability of Spec C's, I'm not sure how many of you who commented have actually used Spec C's and not just rely on hear say.

I'm using Spec C's and have no issue with both idling and driveability. The car pulls pretty smoothly from idle, has really good midrange. Even though the hi cam comes in later (7500rpm -I rev till 9 so it gives me another 1500rpm), the engine makes good power all the way for its class. Overall, I'm happy with the performance and driveability for a 1.6.

The only caveat is, the heads need to be built well with matching parts.
The work was done at Toda Australia.

Just out of curiosity, how much kw did u gain from your headwork from Toda?

Have you ran your car down the 1/4? This is just for comparison

[e240]

Just out of curiosity, how much kw did u gain from your headwork from Toda?

Have you ran your car down the 1/4? This is just for comparison

The gain wasn't so much in Peak power, so I don't think the kw figure would
answer anything rather create more arguments. Needless to say, its a good figure for a 1.6.

Never done quarter miles.

[barefootbonzai]

wakefield then?

[Perry]

Just out of curiosity, how much kw did u gain from your headwork from Toda?

Have you ran your car down the 1/4? This is just for comparison

Here we goooooooo