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  1. #73
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    2000 323I, 2003 320ci
    i shifted religiously at 2500rpm for 2 months when i first got the car

    nothing wrong with the car at 2500rpm

  2. #74
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    Don't know about you guys but I get excess vibration when i try to accelerate the car from below 1500rpm. But the car happily accelerates around town above this range shifting at a mere 3000rpm. The S2000s short gearing means it only falls a few hundred rpms during these shifts.

    Its true that compared to other real sports cars, the S2000 has minimal torque. However claiming that the car is fustrating around town is completely false. Those people are used to revving around 1500rpm. They don't know how to use the S2000s torque band correctly.

  3. #75
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    What's with the rude, defensive comments from you guys? These are just my short term impressions after driving my mate's car for a weekend. I don't have one as a daily driver. I'm 180cm myself and i find the interior a bit cramped. Some might not, but that doesn't means what i'm saying has no truth to it.

    I've driven quite a few different sports cars including the 350Z, RX-7, 06 Sti and Evo IX and in comparison i find that the s2000 really needs revs to build up power and torque. The engine just didn't feel that strong to me until I revved it close to 5000rpm. That's just my impression.

    BTW, those insults are uncalled for.

  4. #76
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    just as the incorrect information is too...

    I can't even be bothered anymore.
    2007 BMW M3 Jerez Black/Palladium Silver
    2002 BMW M3 Ruby Black/Black - SOLD
    1999 Honda S2000 NFR/Black - SOLD

  5. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLLED View Post
    just as the incorrect information is too...

    I can't even be bothered anymore.
    LOL gets like that doesnt it,

  6. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROLLED View Post
    just as the incorrect information is too...

    I can't even be bothered anymore.
    Ok, the s2000 is the best car in the world and is perfect in every possible way. Geez....

  7. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by sodaz View Post
    What's with the rude, defensive comments from you guys? These are just my short term impressions after driving my mate's car for a weekend. I don't have one as a daily driver. I'm 180cm myself and i find the interior a bit cramped. Some might not, but that doesn't means what i'm saying has no truth to it.

    I've driven quite a few different sports cars including the 350Z, RX-7, 06 Sti and Evo IX and in comparison i find that the s2000 really needs revs to build up power and torque. The engine just didn't feel that strong to me until I revved it close to 5000rpm. That's just my impression.

    BTW, those insults are uncalled for.
    The way I see it, if you're puttering around town, you don't need to be above 5k. If you need power, and you're faster than about 30km/h, there's always a gear that'll get you into vtec.

    If you're racing, you've got 0-30km/h before you're in Vtec, and after that you shouldn't be out of vtec with your gear changes.

    If you need power < 5k rpm, then you'll have to mod. If you want to stay NA, then it'll be either a stroker kit or ITB's, otherwise SC or Turbo (dunno about turbo lag though) if you're for FI.

    As for the cramped interior, I think it's something you either get used to, or put up with if you daily drive.

  8. #80
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    Have a little look into final drive ratios and swaps, u dont need a stroker kit or ITB's to fill in those tourque holes.

  9. #81
    I know what you're saying about the final drive ratio, but doesn't following that route mean that you're just getting through those "low-torque" revs quicker?

  10. #82
    Hey you guys!! This is supposed to be a "First Impressions" thread.... what's with the technical jargon! hehehe

    Nah, just joking... any bit of information is good information! - So then, changing the final drive ratio would be a cheaper option rather than stroking the engine capacity, I hear the MX5 final gear ratio is perfect?

  11. #83
    Again, I think the final drive gear depends on what application you want it for.

    stock is 4.11
    AutoX, 4.77
    Street racing w/ some highway driving, 4.56 (you're around 5k @ 100km/h for highway "cruising")
    Then there's 4.44, which is a bit better than the stock ones.

    I think the general concensus at s2ki forums is the ricks 4.56 final drive gear is the best "bang for buck" mod.

  12. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by casey3353 View Post
    I know what you're saying about the final drive ratio, but doesn't following that route mean that you're just getting through those "low-torque" revs quicker?


    Exactly,with my 4.77's there almost non existant, it picks up in any gear. We dont have auto X here so im not sure about that. The consensus on S2ki is that a Final drive swap in general is the best NA bang for buck. The lower the ratio the bigger the bang. My revs @ 100km are just under 4k RPM, 4.56 would be even lower. 4.56 is probably a better ratio for the street but not as accessable as a MX5 4.44 or the Sportage 4.77. I've done alot of freeway driving and im in the city every day, i wouldnt want any other ratio than the 4.77.

    And in regards to the MX5 4.44 most ppl find it pretty mild compared to the other options,its not a night and day difference like the others. Certainly not perfect IMO
    Last edited by WhiteAP1; 13-04-2007 at 06:52 PM.

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