honda integra dc2 vti-r vs type r

[G-Stick]

vtirs are great cars but ill choose a type r anyday if i had the extra money.

ricki_kalsi - the arm rest thing is gay ill trade my one for a type r one anyday.

[Sp00ny]

Type R's in alot of ways are the "smarter" choice in terms of resale value and factory power. However, I think i would rather a VTi-R the price differance is just not worth it. I would rather spend similar money or a bit more on a S15 200SX.

In my opinion, if you have a VTi-R and you want to be able to out run a Type R, best thing you can think about is torque. A Type R only has around 2nm higher than a VTi-R. So Skunk2 Stage 1 cams, exhaust system, Intake Manifold, CAI and a remap. You will easily outrun a Type R in a straight line.

Even in handling, the Type R is still a factory car, so it still has to be ok for street driving. You could get better handling by spending the money left over on a nice set of Tein Coilovers and nice tires.

In some ways though, of course i'd rather own the R...just because of the fact it is a TYPE R.

[G_Vtec]

In my opinion, if you have a VTi-R and you want to be able to out run a Type R, best thing you can think about is torque. A Type R only has around 2nm higher than a VTi-R. So Skunk2 Stage 1 cams, exhaust system, Intake Manifold, CAI and a remap. You will easily outrun a Type R in a straight line.

might as well use the money to top up the budget and get a Type R.

[Lepperfish]

Type R FTW!!

[tinkerbell]

might as well use the money to top up the budget and get a Type R.

his point was that the VTiR would be faster...

[ginganggooly]

hehe.. 8-10k car vs 21-25k car.

I'd rather the ITR, but if bfyb is going to factor into it, a vti-r with 10-15k worth of work to it is going to shit on a type-r from a great height, in pretty much any measure of performance.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

i have owned both cars and from my opinion the type r is a much better car than a VTIR modded.

I endeavoured (spelling) to build up a vtir which i purchased for 8k to the same value as a ITR roughly 24k mainly to prove a point if u spent the same amount you could build something which is potentially better than a type R but more customised.....

This incl full respray, jdm front end, coilovers, type r interior, full exhaust and turbo setup.

As much as this car was fun to drive it was lacking something....doesnt feel as 'tight' as a type R. Not only that, end of the day with the amount of mods i had done to it, it was not a type r....

I recently acquired a dc2r and really enjoy driving it. Handling feels much more direct than my previous vtir. furthermore with simple mods the type r is much more fun....

just my 2c

[tinkerbell]

i guess different people have different experiences?

maybe you were just unlucky, or didnt get good advice, or just chose the wrong parts?

[ginganggooly]

You need to get the right bits for it... However, many moons ago, when my car was about 100k km younger, I'd done bolt-ons ecu + suspension. All up it was about 3k's worth of parts, and the car was great. In fact, after back to back driving against my mates ITR, i was very happy with the VTi-R.

This all ended when all the rubber parts shat themselves due to abuse and old age.

End of the day summation- the fundamentals are there for a very good, very similar package to the ITR. You will always be missing a couple of key components (thicker subframe, thinner front glass) but the rest of it all gets changed during the modification process.

I think the ideal package would be an ITR with a good header, good intake and good exhaust (quiet) along with a hondata/crome/pfc. Leave it like that and enjoy it. You maintain what is one of the best factory packages around and liberate a few extra kw, without destroying the character of the car

[trudogg]

yeah there's nothin i can say
if your goin to get a intergra it's best of getin a type r
maybe you should try it out your self

[T-onedc2]

a vtir which i purchased for 8k ..............doesnt feel as 'tight' as a type R.
just my 2c

It is worth considering also that a VTi-R for 8k is very cheap and well worn and will be a 93-95 model most likely, the chassis is at least 5 years older than an early 99 Type R.
An accurate comparison would be against a low km 98-99 VTi-R, which from my experience also feel tight with good suspension. I do realise the Type-R inherently has a stiffer chassis (edit: incl 98+ VTi-R see Tinkerbell's post #73) and overall will feel tighter anyway.

[T-onedc2]

I think the ideal package would be an ITR with a good header, good intake and good exhaust (quiet) along with a hondata/crome/pfc. Leave it like that and enjoy it. You maintain what is one of the best factory packages around and liberate a few extra kw, without destroying the character of the car

If only more people had this philosophy