ok, this is ending up to be a ****en royal ****..

i have the subframe dropped maybe 6cm.. doesnt want to go any further,
removed the 2-1 header
undid one of the shift linkages
front sussy forks are disconnected from lca's


i have the bolt that goes through the mount out..
there wasnt even a front bolt for the mount
one of the rears is loose the other is damn tight

i have been accessing the rear bolts from the back..
..


now does anyone want to tell me a method they used which was successful?
no room to get it from the top really