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 Originally Posted by yfin
If someone is really peeved about this I would recommend you find a shop that is prepared to test different alignment settings outside the Honda specs. eg - why not try the TSX alignment settings? - very few of them complain about any pulling or drifting. I would also be surprised if a place like Whiteline couldn't solve this.
Yeah, at 0mm - 0mm, my left wheel pointed straight, while my right wheel pointed a few mm out to the right. Tell them to put -1mm or so on the right wheel to compensate. 
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Not sure if the TSX's are not having this problem.Ive had one of the US forum members PM me about our problem in Aust.It seems that mabye they didnt have the problem in earlier(pre 2006) models,but now somethings changed.
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The pen is mightier than the sword.
Originally Posted by avid
Another course of action about this issue might be for us to tell Honda Australia that we intend to try and get the story into the media.They might not give a "fig",but then again, it aint going to help sales is it.
Yes I totally agree the media should be involved as a last resort. We missed the boat though (International Motor Show and Grand Prix. Honda showed some "Ruthless Marketing")
I personally think that OzHonda, If they don't mind, should contact Honda Japan and Honda Aust. ( Starting from the the executive level at Honda Aust. and to the excecutive level at Honda Japan ) about this issue, explaining to them that their reputation of "Honda Reliability" in Australia is being tainted and that the marketing they are doing here in Aust. won't work if all aspects of of the chain arn't fulfilled.....
For example:
The Product it self ---> Manufacturing of the product ---> Marketing of the product ---> And of course "Customer Satisfaction of the product" which is the last link and the most important of them all !!
Without customer satisfaction the rest are all a waste of time and money. This causes a trickle effect on future sales because the majority of buyers in the future will be " US " the customer who already own one or more of their product(s) and are satisfied with it, which in turn will make us buy again if we are satisfied with it, not too mention others along the way as word spreads of satisfaction of their product mainly by us, mind you.
At the moment with the amount of competition in the motoring industry, there isn't much room for error.
Toyota has built a solid customer base and so has Mazda which is Hondas main rival....
Mazda2 vs Jazz
Mazda3 vs Civic
Mazda6 vs Accord
RX8 vs Integra Type S
MX5 vs S2000
Tribute vs CRV
CX7 and CX9 vs MDX.
Not too far behind is Hyundi, Subaru, Ford and all those European cars...and last on the list is Mitsubishi and Holden which by the way is hanging on by a thread (lucky for the Holden Ute otherwise.......  lol)
I am going to contact the relevant authorities (consumer affairs and vicroads) and I'd ask the rest of the euro owners with the same symptoms, to do so too, PLEASE !! This is a SAFETY ISSUE !! At 4000klm-5000klm my car was looking for the nearest power pole (No exageration)
I have raised a safety issue with comsumer affairs before with success, not only for my success but for the success of SAFETY for fellow consumers as well, it is our responsabilty to do so as we are the consumer.
I will post relevant authority details in the next couple of days.
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Quote "Yeah, at 0mm - 0mm, my left wheel pointed straight, while my right wheel pointed a few mm out to the right. Tell them to put -1mm or so on the right wheel to compensate. "
It seems to me that a number of people are having a problem getting the steering wheel back to the straight ahead position after dealers/tyre shops have played around trying to fix the drift problem.I dont know why,its not normally a big deal with good alignment machines and experienced front end mechanics,but i see a number of posts complaining about it from time to time.It makes me reluctant to let anybody play around with my car,because if there's one thing that bothers me as much as the drifting,its an 'off centre' steering wheel.
The suggestion to change the toe on the right wheel seems a logical step,but why havnt some of these places (including Honda Aus) already tried it. Mabye they have???Has anybody out there done it with any success ?
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Has anyone contacted Whiteline and see if they have anything to say about this?
Can't believe this is still going.
We should let Jenson Button drive our Euros. He can complain to Honda for us and for his F1 car design problems. 
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I think the SIMPLEST and EASIEST things to resolve this is for Honda Australia to change all the tyres of 17" Euro with RE040 to something that doesn't exhibit the problem.
Because it has already been proven that same car with 16" stock rims and tyres + 17" rims with aftermarket tyres DO NOT have the same pulling issue.
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Originally Posted by V205
I think the SIMPLEST and EASIEST things to resolve this is for Honda Australia to change all the tyres of 17" Euro with RE040 to something that doesn't exhibit the problem.
Because it has already been proven that same car with 16" stock rims and tyres + 17" rims with aftermarket tyres DO NOT have the same pulling issue.
I agree.
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plz HELP
Changed my tyres too michelin preceda II still pulling to the right......can anyone give me any other suggestions plz...getting desperate now. That was my nightmare come true, damn it...pulling not as severe but evident, might have something to do with higher side wall on michelin's, not sure.......I can't believe the dealership's as well denial, denial....have i been flagged or something...every dealer telling me no pulling problem, and is normal for my car to follow camber of the road.....IS THIS NORMAL....YEAH RIGHT MY CAR HITS AUTO PILOT ON RIGHT TURNS WITH CAMBER, I DONT EVEN HAVE TO TURN MY STEERING WHEEL ON RIGHT TURNS, UNDER CAMBER... TAKES THE TURN BY IT SELF....IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL FOLLOWING CAMBER AND WHY DOESN'T IT FOLLOW CAMBER TO THE LEFT ????? AT ALL??????
Definetly not bridgestones RE040.
Although i must state that, bridgestone REO40's are pretty shit. I am getting better ride (smoother), NO tram tracking AT ALL with the preceda's, feels like I have nike air max on my car now. Even absorbs bumps better, where as REO40's shit on pot holes and big bumps....
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Get the Ingalls rear camber kit like I suggested. My car was pulling right very hard (enough to get you to change direction from a left lane change to a right lane without your hand on the wheel) after lowering by 1" because of the obscene amount of rear camber and incorrect rear toe. After getting the kit installed and realigned to factory specs, my car drives straight.
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Originally Posted by LXRY
Changed my tyres too michelin preceda II still pulling to the right......can anyone give me any other suggestions plz...getting desperate now. That was my nightmare come true, damn it...pulling not as severe but evident, might have something to do with higher side wall on michelin's, not sure.......I can't believe the dealership's as well denial, denial....have i been flagged or something...every dealer telling me no pulling problem, and is normal for my car to follow camber of the road.....IS THIS NORMAL....YEAH RIGHT MY CAR HITS AUTO PILOT ON RIGHT TURNS WITH CAMBER, I DONT EVEN HAVE TO TURN MY STEERING WHEEL ON RIGHT TURNS, UNDER CAMBER... TAKES THE TURN BY IT SELF....IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL FOLLOWING CAMBER AND WHY DOESN'T IT FOLLOW CAMBER TO THE LEFT ????? AT ALL???
Definetly not bridgestones RE040.
Although i must state that, bridgestone REO40's are pretty shit. I am getting better ride (smoother), NO tram tracking AT ALL with the preceda's, feels like I have nike air max on my car now. Even absorbs bumps better, where as REO40's shit on pot holes and big bumps....
Sorry to hear you still have the drifting/pulling issue,what a pain in the arse.Try a rear camber kit like Aaron suggested(i've got one of these)otherwise a good alignment shop,in the meantime keep on HA case.Ring/email on a regular basis,keep at them,they'll do something just to get rid of you.Anyway good luck!!
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First of all: understand that the car has pretty direct steering.
Most people complain about cars that have vague steering!
The Euro tramlines; some cars do, especially the more sporty ones.
I really think this "issue" isn't that much of an issue and has got blown completely out of proportion in this thread.
The first thing is to check your tyre pressures -- and LOWER them!
Increasing tyre pressures will increase tramlining. More pressure means harder tyre, means more likely to be thrown off line. Softer tyre pressures act like a cushion.
Perhaps start with the tyre pressures recommended in the manual -- there's a reason why manufacturers recommend tyre pressures -- because they've checked what works best for the car!
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