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  1. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by kookie View Post
    Coilovers will be the better choice, but if your just in it for looks do not get them, Settle for something more a spring and shock combo. I found that king springs were very low and very soft. ONLY get this if you want to slam your car as handling is the worst with these.

    Currently have HKS hypermax 2 on medium settings and i don't find it a harsh ride. Then again I was coming from king springs.
    I used to have king springs as well, but it is similar to the one that I have right now..
    I dont seem happy with the height of my car at the moment.. I want it a bit lower I guess.. will post the picture later
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    Spring rate play a really important roll in the whole setup bro.....even you use the same shock....if the spring rate is high<hard> then the ride will not be comfy at all.......and coilovers you can change the damper setting which will make ur car more stiffer or softer....<<Part D in pic>>

    Tein SS


    Tein SS is beginner's choice...spring rate is front 8kgf/mm rear 10kgf/mm......which is more then enough as TeMp mention.....can be as soft as stock or hard as rock on track.....but SS is not full height adjustable....which means we compress the spring to lower the car...<<refer to pic part C>>..by doing that will change the spring rate and affect the ride quality....the more you lower it...the more harder it will be.

    Tein Flex


    Flex is full height adjustable....Spring rate is Front 12kgf/mm rear 14kgf/mm.......you are not adjusting the ride height by compressing the spring...<<refer to pic part H>>.....and you adjust the spring on top of part E.....so it won't affect the spring rate....but the spring rate of Flex is higher then SS by 4kgf/mm.

    My suggestion is.... if you are not chasing for control...but only lower ur car without changing the ride quality ....you better go sth like spoon spring + after market shocks....hope that helps...
    Last edited by air23box; 26-05-2007 at 06:16 AM.
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  3. #27
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    just a sec.... you are running 40 series tyres on your 17's.... aahhhh... isn't that illigal on a DC5r... take it back to where you bought your tyres, and tell them to put 225/45/17 on.... AT NO COST.

    i have Tein SS (set to like 10 outta 24, and on a low setting), 24mm front and 22mm rear whiteline swaybars.... and the ride is awesome... HELLA bumpy... but awesome.... so don't do what i have

  4. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by air23box View Post
    Spring rate play a really important roll in the whole setup bro.....even you use the same shock....if the spring rate is high<hard> then the ride will not be comfy at all.......and coilovers you can change the damper setting which will make ur car more stiffer or softer....<<Part D in pic>>

    Tein SS


    Tein SS is beginner's choice...spring rate is front 8kgf/mm rear 10kgf/mm......which is more then enough as TeMp mention.....can be as soft as stock or hard as rock on track.....but SS is not full height adjustable....which means we compress the spring to lower the car...<<refer to pic part C>>..by doing that will change the spring rate and affect the ride quality....the more you lower it...the more harder it will be.

    Tein Flex


    Flex is full height adjustable....Spring rate is Front 12kgf/mm rear 14kgf/mm.......you are not adjusting the ride height by compressing the spring...<<refer to pic part H>>.....and you adjust the spring on top of part E.....so it won't affect the spring rate....but the spring rate of Flex is higher then SS by 4kgf/mm.

    My suggestion is.... if you are not chasing for control...but only lower ur car without changing the ride quality ....you better go sth like spoon spring + after market shocks....hope that helps...

    Thanks for the advice..
    are they cheaper as well for the spoons spring + aftermarket shocks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45SET View Post
    just a sec.... you are running 40 series tyres on your 17's.... aahhhh... isn't that illigal on a DC5r... take it back to where you bought your tyres, and tell them to put 225/45/17 on.... AT NO COST.

    i have Tein SS (set to like 10 outta 24, and on a low setting), 24mm front and 22mm rear whiteline swaybars.... and the ride is awesome... HELLA bumpy... but awesome.... so don't do what i have
    Just an advice mate. Tein SS is only up to 16 clicks. DO NOT go any futher or you will damage you coilovers. This is said on the manual and also proven by EDFC (as edfc only allows you to go to 16 clicks too)

    Can't believe you went to that effort Eddy

  6. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by 45SET View Post
    just a sec.... you are running 40 series tyres on your 17's.... aahhhh... isn't that illigal on a DC5r... take it back to where you bought your tyres, and tell them to put 225/45/17 on.... AT NO COST.

    i have Tein SS (set to like 10 outta 24, and on a low setting), 24mm front and 22mm rear whiteline swaybars.... and the ride is awesome... HELLA bumpy... but awesome.... so don't do what i have
    Ooops.. not 40 series tyres.. my tyres are now 215/45/17 .. sorrry for the wrong information..

    :P

    I will find out more about the suspension soon... I think I will sit on cars that have different suspension combos or coilovers first to convince me to get the right suspension package..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeMp View Post
    Just an advice mate. Tein SS is only up to 16 clicks. DO NOT go any futher or you will damage you coilovers. This is said on the manual and also proven by EDFC (as edfc only allows you to go to 16 clicks too)

    Can't believe you went to that effort Eddy
    It's the 16 clicks from fully turned clockwise (hardest). While there are 24 clicks, if you start counting from full counter clockwise (which is softest), you're not supposed to use the first 7 clicks from softest.
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  8. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by vippy84 View Post
    So you reckon koni will not make any difference on the ride height at all?
    how about eibach or tein adjustable coilover?

    8/10 people suggested tein flex for me to use.. any cheap one for sale in oz?

    What is the spring rate of your Teins? Also, what model is it? <----
    i am not sure..
    Er.. not sure on what my spring rate is.. haha

    But mine are TEIN HA..

    not a smooth ride. fun for cornering, but that's about it..

    Eibach springs and Koni shocks seem like the way to go.. comfortable ride.
    but as for ur ride hieght wouldn't have a clue on how it will sit..
    luzinit has this spring+shock combo and his ride is really comfortable

    as for king springs in a DC5R? it's more of a downgrade in my opinion. i'd rather keep the stock springs or your tein springs.

  9. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    It's the 16 clicks from fully turned clockwise (hardest). While there are 24 clicks, if you start counting from full counter clockwise (which is softest), you're not supposed to use the first 7 clicks from softest.
    what you mean not supposed to use?

    like what if i used 5-6 clicks on my HA's?

    or is that comment above just meant for tein ss?

    just confused that's all haha

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    thats kinda stupid.... if they are not ment to be used (i saw that in the manual also)... why put them there. Kinda stupid on teins part.

    i have found a happy point with the car... i havn't changed it for like a 10 months and there are no weird noises or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45SET View Post
    thats kinda stupid.... if they are not ment to be used (i saw that in the manual also)... why put them there. Kinda stupid on teins part.

    i have found a happy point with the car... i havn't changed it for like a 10 months and there are no weird noises or anything
    probably tein SS is built for street racing or watever, and it needs certain level of stiffness.. if u are using it for daily drive and not to race it.. and not cornering at high speed, probably u can be safe even if u set it to the soft one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dupac-> View Post
    what you mean not supposed to use?

    like what if i used 5-6 clicks on my HA's?

    or is that comment above just meant for tein ss?

    just confused that's all haha
    I'm not sure how many clicks does HA has. My comment is for SS and Flex as they are the ones that have 24 physical steps in the damper knob but the manual says that it has only 16 levels of adjustment.
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