b16a vs k20?

[e240]

just a question for all the more experienced people in the field of engine building and the likes, would it be wiser to build a b16a or just throw in a k20 conversion? looking at building a semi track car and the b16 is gutless as stock.

Are you planning to use the car competitively or track days only?
That should be the deciding factor. If Track days, then by all means, use whatever the most powerful engine you can afford.

If you're using the car competitively, you need to understand the class you're going to run in and if the car would be competitive with the modifications and the class you'd have to run in.

and just a note to clarify, B16As are NOT gutless as stock. Alot of people totally underestimate a B16A because its a 1.6l only.

[JasonGilholme]

and just a note to clarify, B16As are NOT gutless as stock. Alot of people totally underestimate a B16A because its a 1.6l only.

Totally agree. I find the gearing and powerband extremely usefull for motorkhana.

The little 1.6 has definately shown WRX's where to stick their turbo lol

[destrukshn]

b16a's are gutless.
lol.
no i'm not being biased or anything, becyase i also own a del sol.
only in high rpm, it goes okay.
anything under 5500 rpm, it's a dog.
lol.

[tRipitaka]

makes noise.. goes nowhere.

people just look at you like wtf. (cos they're just cruising)

[JasonGilholme]

Depends how heavy your sol is

Anyway back on topic. What sorta racing are you going to be doing??

[Q_ball]

I've driven Bong's Del Sol...and it's a nugget...all show no go! lol

But yes, depends what kind of racing you're gonna get urself into..
If money aint a thang...go the k20
If its an issue, then work a b16 and that'll go jst as well.

Remember what fly said though back on page one, sussy, brakes, tyres etc need to be factored into the equation.

[e240]

b16a's are gutless.
lol.
no i'm not being biased or anything, becyase i also own a del sol.

lol.

You should loose weight...LOL

[tRipitaka]

I've driven Bong's Del Sol...and it's a nugget...all show no go! lol

But yes, depends what kind of racing you're gonna get urself into..
If money aint a thang...go the k20
If its an issue, then work a b16 and that'll go jst as well.

Remember what fly said though back on page one, sussy, brakes, tyres etc need to be factored into the equation.

that's cos you weigh too much you beefcake.

but yeah, must admit though, the b16 is a much better engine than some other 1.6L's in the market.. driven a 1.6 BMW and DAMN it felt like 1krpm-3krpm in the sol..

but there's no comparing to a k20.. type R engine versus a non R..

[e240]

anything under 5500 rpm, it's a dog.
lol.

Ok ok..back onto the discussion

Maybe its just me but I have no problems with the B16As powerband.
To me, its a good balance where if you want to drive normally and slow, you stay out of the powerband and when you need to gun, you rev the bejesus out of the engine. Best of both worlds really and an adjustment to the driving style away from the norm.

Really its just like a motorcyle and maybe the reason why I like it is that I used to ride motorcycles which are all like that.

[destrukshn]

serisously, how much can a 1.6lt pull n/a.
sweet f/a i reckon.
overall, it is a excellent for what a 4cylinder 1.6.
there is no torque.
lol.

[JohnnyVtec]

b16a's are gutless.
lol.
no i'm not being biased or anything, becyase i also own a del sol.
only in high rpm, it goes okay.
anything under 5500 rpm, it's a dog.
lol.

You shouldn't generalise all B16's in the same category as yours. There is (Monumental) proof in research that many stock & modded variations of the B16b,B16a-1-2-3 honda engines are far from gutless.

If you say yours is a dog, i believe you

[tRipitaka]

b16a's are gutless.
lol.
no i'm not being biased or anything, becyase i also own a del sol.
only in high rpm, it goes okay.
anything under 5500 rpm, it's a dog.
lol.

b16 in a delsol doesn't really help either..

pretty heavy chassis compared to an eg6 or ef8/9.. where there's so much more you can do for weight reduction..