b16a vs k20?

[JasonGilholme]

Definately agree! There will always be a learning curve and some adjustments might need to be made to aide the learning process.

[shadou]

wow so many input thank you all.

yeah I currently have a b16 and will be on a budget probably set my mark around the $20,000 mark or so, don't have 100,000 sitting around to dump in to a civic =.=. I'll probably be using it for a weekender tracker not a 24/7 full competitive racer so probably want it as road worthy as possible. I got mates working in workshops so labour will be lower and I have skill in the trade. Just tossing on which path to go first.

oh and it was a fully built b16 vs a stock k20 question, whether I should dump some cash into a b16 or just throw in a k20 cos I'm not sure whether the money spent to make a b16 match a k20 in torque and kwafw justifiable.

[JasonGilholme]

just work on power to weight ratios man

[quangsta]

i say keep the b16...barely even touch it, just get some breathing mods and mb a piggy back or an ecu if u got some money lying around. lose some weight of the car, work on handling. then decide what your not happy with acceleration, torque, top speed, rev counts, powerband, gearbox then you'll have some idea of what u want and maybe someone with experience can tell you how to get there

i say this way cause either way you u gotta do the whole, supension, swaybar, struts, pillar bars etc anyway. why not do it first get it how u likeit then working on power. btw getting a b16 or k20 shouldnt really effect the handling set up too much (correct me if im wrong) but yerr...

[shadou]

hmm alright I was hoping to do everything at once cos the engine needs to come out anyways with the rebuild. Basically be stripping the little civic to it's shell and getting the chassis strenghthed with a bit of welding here and there esp at the joints, repray at it.

[quangsta]

so u already got a b16 in ur ek hatch but its dead and u need to rebuild it?? hence the question?

[AsH_]

i gotta JDM B16A...

i have no VTEC in it either... broke...

cbf fixing it... got no time...

i have had no VTEC for over a year now...

now that's a slug ! ! !


might fix it sometime...

[shadou]

eg hatch, b16 in it and thought it was time to get a good project going. So came here hoping for experienced track and people who have done such a conversion to shed some light on to this topic. I've done stupid things in the past where I was ignorant and not listened/seek advice to a problem and didn't want to do it again.

[e240]

wow so many input thank you all.

yeah I currently have a b16 and will be on a budget probably set my mark around the $20,000 mark or so, don't have 100,000 sitting around to dump in to a civic =.=. I'll probably be using it for a weekender tracker not a 24/7 full competitive racer so probably want it as road worthy as possible. I got mates working in workshops so labour will be lower and I have skill in the trade. Just tossing on which path to go first.

oh and it was a fully built b16 vs a stock k20 question, whether I should dump some cash into a b16 or just throw in a k20 cos I'm not sure whether the money spent to make a b16 match a k20 in torque and kwafw justifiable.

Well, given your reasons, I'd say a stock K20A. A fully worked B16A is going to be very high strung and might be abit irritating as a daily driver.

[Dylanamus]

If you're racing in competitions then isn't the capacity more of an issue. The b16a is such a good engine for its capacity that it's not difficult to make a competative track car with it, whereas if you're talkin 2l you're suddenly up against all the typical turbos etc etc

While k20 is alluring, if you already have a b16a and you're NOT sponsored, you're just being greedy/ilogical in doing an engine swap.

For the class you're already sitting in, you already have a car that can be made competative - why not focus on exploiting what you already have, rather than dreaming of greener pastures!

Lap times are so much more about handling than raw power, unless you're on speedways or something. Just look at how the EVO 8 beat a Murcilago around a circuit on Top Gear. Put those two on a straight, and the scales would swing back the other way.

[Dylanamus]

You know a stock k20a conversion will cost you so close to $20k on its own that it's not funny... good luck getting a decent half cut for under $12k.. then you've got engine mounts, axles, and shit loads of labour. Do a bit of research...

[e240]

If you're racing in competitions then isn't the capacity more of an issue. The b16a is such a good engine for its capacity that it's not difficult to make a competative track car with it, whereas if you're talkin 2l you're suddenly up against all the typical turbos etc etc
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No, actually depending on the event you compete in,
you can be very competitive with a K20 in the 2litre class.
turbos are multiplied by a factor of 1.3, so a 2litre rex is in the 2.6litre class.