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[barefootbonzai]

Since you did your turbo install yourself.

If you hunt hard enough...

Doin a B16 conversion yourself cost $2500. Then $2500 on top of the line bolt on goodies.

Doin a B18C SiR conversion yourself cost $3500. Then $1500 on I/H/E.

Doin a B18CR yourself cost $5000.

So any of the above is valid to race you, fair?

[90LAN]

hey champ... made some good points... however D16 Turbo modified - Very good according to page 1 and a few other examples some pages back...

b16 turbo modified.. not 9sec generally but still pretty good

talking about the states.... this thred is about potential of a Dseres turbo with the States cars as a reference... not saying it is better then any other path

lyle there are consistent 9 sec b series modifed cars running in the states dont be in denial it has being a fact for the last decade or so
first honda into the 15's bseries, 14's bseries, 13's beseries,12's beseries, 11's bseries, 10's beseries, 9's b series ............
funny how alot of 9's hondas are all b and h series
all in common with this --- B SERIES HAS THE GOODS

WHY SETTLE FOR 2ND BEST
WHEN U CAN HAVE BETTER LIKE A B OR A K
IF U CANT AFFORD IT WHY NOT SAVE UP THEN INSTEAD OF COMPRAMISING
FOR SOMETHING THAT IS INFERIOR

THE B SERIES WOULD ALWAYS BE BETTER ENGINE HANDS DOWN
IT IS A TRUE HONDA ENGINE
THAT IS WHY THERE IS THIS ARGUMENT !

[Sexc86]

i think your adding too many factors in mate...

Fair enough I agree with you if you put any of those cars up against my Civic as it is not they would all win...

however thats not what this argument has turned into.... B16series Swap budget vs Turbo Conversion of same budget as the bseries on a d16

[JasonGilholme]

jase its more about what is the best option if your car has a d-series engine

Yeah but why would you buy a car with a d series motor in the first place?? Especially if you were in the game for performance. lol

You've end up in front if you bought a b series car in the first place and then went to turbo afterwards.

If you've got a d series car you're probably better of selling it while its stock (to an unsuspecting grandma) and then buying a b series powered car and then turboing that. it'll probably only work out a few thousand more but you'll be in front by miles in the long one.

SEXC86: Amen to that. D series

[Aza]

lol everyone misses the point. in my opinon if ur tight on budget turbo what u go weather it be that have a d sitting there or a b. anyway barefoot i'll see u on the weekend anyway haha.

like i said if i were rich i wouldnt be in a d

[Sexc86]

lyle there are consistent 9 sec b series modifed cars running in the states dont be in denial it has being a fact for the last decade or so
first honda into the 15's bseries, 14's bseries, 13's beseries,12's beseries, 11's bseries, 10's beseries, 9's b series ............
funny how alot of 9's hondas are all b and h series
all in common with this --- B SERIES HAS THE GOODS

WHY SETTLE FOR 2ND BEST
WHEN U CAN HAVE BETTER LIKE A B OR A K
IF U CANT AFFORD IT WHY NOT SAVE UP THEN INSTEAD OF COMPRAMISING
FOR SOMETHING THAT IS INFERIOR

THE B SERIES WOULD ALWAYS BE BETTER ENGINE HANDS DOWN
IT IS A TRUE HONDA ENGINE
THAT IS WHY THERE IS THIS ARGUMENT !

i know man i dont disagree with you.... thred is about the potential of D16s....
Bseries are great engines.. ! and if i had one stock i wouldnt swap it out for a D

[Aza]

Ok I have been staying out of this for a few pages now as it seems it has taken a turn for the worst and gone off topic but I wanted to post this. It is pretty simple to know that compared to other Honda engines D series is the baby and yes any other turboed Honda engine would in most cases work better then a turboed D and produce better results. When I was first looking at doing the engine on my civic I had decided on a budget of 5000$. With this target in mind I went out and looked at my options and I to came down the B series vs turboed D dilemma. Now with this budget I could have easily thrown in a B series, but with this and my budget a B series just wouldn’t produce the power I was looking for (not saying B series in NA form are slow, and I know there are a lot out there running awesome times, however most of these do run stripped interiors and I just simply wish to keep my interior intacked, this is my own choice and I have nothing against people who do strip, so in saying this if I wasn’t going to strip I needed more power going by the old weight vs power rule). So for me and my budget a turboed d seemed to be the best choice. With this budget and now knowing my direction I went out and researched what I could get, I kind of realised important things to go on the turbo set up with ecu, injectors, decent exhaust, ect. Now with spending the money on these and the turbo parts to get it going my budget nearly vanished which made me conclude that I wasn’t going to have the money to do up the internals on my d series. This decision means I could not get massive power and run massive boost into my engine. Therefore limiting my engine to around 250hp atw as seems to be the limit for a stock block turboed d. now 250hp in a civic isn’t that bad at all so I wasn’t to fused with this. I don’t plan to keep this car forever but in the time I have it I want it to be as fun as possible (yes I do have fun driving a turboed d). So with the parts now figured out I went out and put it all together. With the parts I have I don’t believe I will hit the 250hp mark (gets dynoed this weekend) but as we all know we can only go as fast as we can afford, and I simply cannot afford to spend anymore money engine wise on this car. My car isnt a drag or track car. it is a daily driver that i can have fun in and occassional show. However with what I have spent I am very happy with the results I am seeing, I can defiantly see where the money has went and i am very happy i decided to go on this path, as i said this was the best hp gain i could get in the money i was willing to spend and i dont intend to upgrade the engine any further ON THIS CAR. but if i was rich i wouldnt be driving a d. as quoted from before u only go as fast as u can afford.

now this reply isnt meant to cuase arguements it is just to show others what motives people might have to do a d over another honda engine. value for money, thats all it is.

(ps i reacon it was better first time i typed it, haha my net fudged up which made me loose it had to retype)

reason why i didnt save up for a turboed b (this is inrelation to the post up above saying if u couldnt afford to turbo a b why dont u just save up for it instead of copromising)

we drive hondas not ferrari's ha im not ganna be in a honda all my life, just to enjoy it for the period i have the car

[Sexc86]

Yeah but why would you buy a car with a d series motor in the first place?? Especially if you were in the game for performance. lol

You've end up in front if you bought a b series car in the first place and then went to turbo afterwards.

If you've got a d series car you're probably better of selling it while its stock (to an unsuspecting grandma) and then buying a b series powered car and then turboing that. it'll probably only work out a few thousand more but you'll be in front by miles in the long one.

SEXC86: Amen to that. D series

good advice man but not relevent at all to this thred... dont loose your temper mate and be a bad looser... relax

[SLOWEGG]

lol everyone misses the point. in my opinon if ur tight on budget turbo what u go weather it be that have a d sitting there or a b. anyway barefoot i'll see u on the weekend anyway haha.

like i said if i were rich i wouldnt be in a d

I would disagree. IF you're on a tight budget you wouldnt want to go turbo because of the trouble and maintenence a turbo car can cause you.

[Sexc86]

I would disagree. IF you're on a tight budget you wouldnt want to go turbo because of the trouble and maintenence a turbo car can cause you.

fair enough mate, have you got any examples or experience to back that claim up....

in my experience if you look after it good fuel/oil warm up / down time... General Commen sense etc dont see why they cant be as reliable...

[Aza]

there not as much trouble as u think when done right. even my last shitty setup that ran like crap and was completely wrong didnt give me much trouble maintenence wise. always started, always took me where i needed to go.

[SLOWEGG]

Be a bad loser?? I haven't lost anything HAHA

I have agreed that if you have a d series engine your better to turbo it rather then doing an engine swap but you have failed to see that i've pointed out the fact that the B series is the PERFORMANCE engine of the two and that your better off starting with a car that has a propper engine.

They're both 1.6 litres, and when they're both NA the B series kicks shit all over the D series cause the B is the performance bred car! (hence the different power outputs from your stupid reply earlier in the thread HAHA) The d series engine was for the shopping malls, not the race tracks.

By all means you can run around in your car with a turbo and think its race worthy but at the end of the day just remember that when theres a b series with the same mods as you, you might as well just pull over and turn the car off.

Can't wait to see the strip times from these cars..

AMEN! 100000000000000000000000000000000+ REP FOR YOU.