Gruppe-M purchase! & review w/ pics

[aaronng]

See the red up in the qoute about the new JDM CTR "a helical limited-slip diff" is that better than the ATS Carbon 1.5 way LSD

Helical LSD = gear-operated LSD = Torsen-type LSD.

BTW, I realise a confusion that I just caused. Torsen = Torque-sensing, but it applies specifically to gear-operated torque-sensing LSDs. Clutch-operated LSDs are also torque-sensing, but they are not called Torsen LSDs.

[didz]

Ahh ok aronng. Now i understand however i am not sure about basic or good lsd. I know that my definition would not be technical at all. It would be the explanation that some are more limited than others.
Was not aware that the dc5r had torsen

[aaronng]

On a FWD car, the Carbon ATS 1.5 way is good but overkill. The difference between the Carbon ATS and the torsen in the DC5R is that the Carbon is clutch-operated. That means that even if both wheel totally lost grip, the Carbon would still work while the torsen must have some resistance to at least one driving wheel in order to work.

The Carbon ATS is good for RWD cars used in drifting where the torsen would just give up when both tyres were spinning.

[EL_DC5]

On a FWD car, the Carbon ATS 1.5 way is good but overkill. The difference between the Carbon ATS and the torsen in the DC5R is that the Carbon is clutch-operated. That means that even if both wheel totally lost grip, the Carbon would still work while the torsen must have some resistance to at least one driving wheel in order to work.

The Carbon ATS is good for RWD cars used in drifting where the torsen would just give up when both tyres were spinning.

So would the Carbon ATS be better for the Track? Or just better for drag/1/4 mile

[obsessionz]

massive thread on GruppeM lol

[aaronng]

So would the Carbon ATS be better for the Track? Or just better for drag/1/4 mile

Carbon ATS would be better if you were driving on ice. Just use the TypeR LSD for a FWD car.

And sorry, back on topic.

[EL_DC5]

[XP02ED]

thats wacked! hahahah anyone know the exact difference between the S and R intake for gruppem? i still havent seen anyone install it on the S

[Mattski_VTIR]

There is a slight groove in the back right hand side to accommodate the Type S strutbrace. I believe this is the only difference.

[EL_DC5]

yep just different cause of the strutbrace,

[XP02ED]

ah alright

well after resetting my ECU i can feel the difference, in speed aswell
just to let everyone know! make sure u reset your ECU!

[didz]

So mikul, comparison between Injen and GruppeM please