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 Originally Posted by sitta
is the ep3 158 kw? arent they build in uk and has the same k20 as the new ctr?
JDM EP3 gets a 215ps engine, compared to UK's 200hp.
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There is a review of the CTR in July 07 Motor mag. Mixed review - ride not so good as was road noise. Weight listed as 1345kg which is suspect as the base euro is 1375kg.
Last edited by yfin; 22-06-2007 at 10:00 PM.
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 Originally Posted by yfin
There is a review of the CTR in July 07 Motor mag. Mixed review - ride not so good as was road noise. Weight listed as 1345kg which is suspect as the base euro is 1375kg. Either way - this hot hatch weighs too much for its power.
Did they list the 0-100km/h and 400m times?
The Euro also got the same thing about choppy ride and road noise with the michelins back in 2003.
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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 Originally Posted by aaronng
Did they list the 0-100km/h and 400m times?
The Euro also got the same thing about choppy ride and road noise with the michelins back in 2003.
Nope - no testing. There is a good break out piece on the JDM Type R and they discuss how much better the JDM version is. They also say "while both cars weigh in at 1270kg"| - in reference to the JDM and European CTR. Not sure why there are so many weight figures for the same car.
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I also have the Motor Mag.These reviewers over the years have been spoilt with cars such as BMWs Mercs,etc and they expect superb handling/roadholding and not a hint of vibration or hardness in the ride of a $40,000 car,for goodness sake it's a Type R!The grandpa reviewer in the Motor mag should not be given the job of reviewing sports cars but luxury cars eg Audi A8etc.
The JDM Civic Type R apparently has a VERY hard suspension set up so they would sook about that to ad infinitum
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i still reckon Honda Aus etc have given us the bare minimum with this 'type R'.
result = wouldnt even consider buying one. 45 grand on road.. ill buy a dc2r or dc5r and modify with the change.
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OK my mini review, im not going to sound like an auto writer just a normal car lover. (not just honda)
Well i chucked guns n roses in the cd player, welcome to the jungle comes on, i drive out and after 3rd gear i realise i dont need music on, the car sound bloody horn!
Im gunna kind of compare to my old demo the 06 type S integra. The seats are fantastic, so strong and firm and me being 6'3" hold me in just perfect. The old type S seats were the worst seats ever, didnt do squat!
The gear box is just awsome, smooth quick gear changes that are pretty much effortles. Once this car gets to about 5 1/2 grand i tell u wat the roar is unbelievable. It sounds nothing like the old type S. It screams! and its great watchin the lil vtec light light up!
I decided to take the mrs for a spin around the yarra bend (for melb people u know where it is) being 830pm dark as can be and a lil mist rain. Its like it was ment for the twisties, ive taken heaps of new cars round this bend and this one seems the best so far, its more like being stuck on rails the whole time, VSA had to work a lil but did a great job at all times of need. Doin those bends u dont really need the breaks that much just alot of gear changing from 2nd to 3rd and back again, if u hit 4th u would be doin over 100.
The breaking is outstanding also, it pulls up hard and the ABS comes on at the last 2nd.
The one thing with this car is the sound its just amazing and u want to hear it all the time.
Now if i was given a teg type S i would hand it back, shocking seats, very poor turning circle, crap saftey features, bad blind spots and just annoying to drive in everyday traffic.
I think the best thing about the CTR is u could drive it as a daily and it drives just like a normal car with comfort and ease. The 2nd u want to drive it like it should u have a different car again!
Watching a 50yo man pick up his red one yesterday was a great feeling, hes had a few civics before, hell he even had the 1st one to come to aus in the 70's! He was like a child, couldnt wait to get in and drive it and had the biggest smile ever. In this business @ honda where ive been for 3 years i cant remember the last time we had a customer so happy and excited about a new car. We took his pic of him next to it and sent it to honda aus telling them it was good to get that feeling back again.
Now some of u arnt happy its not a true type R i understand but makin it this way opens it up to a larger market. Id take this over the jap type R sedan as i think that just looks like a normal vti civic riced up with a big wing and has no appeal to me visually( i know the donk is more powerful ect).
Im going to sell one today to an older mother whos kids have grown up and she wants to get rid of the 7 seater and have a lil sports car she can enjoy! i think thats great!
We are finding a few of the performance car people are now ordering them to!
Im also about to get my old man out of the SS and into one and he is very excited.
Just remember this is just my opinion on the car, i love it, i would drive one everyday and i still cant get the smile of my face after driving it, i even had to get the XR5 out at work and drive it just to make sure i wasnt getting to excited over nothing, well i wasnt!
james
Last edited by UNLS1; 23-06-2007 at 09:29 AM.
im not biased, i just tell it how it is.
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 Originally Posted by UNLS1
OK my mini review, im not going to sound like an auto writer just a normal car lover. (not just honda)
Well i chucked guns n roses in the cd player, welcome to the jungle comes on, i drive out and after 3rd gear i realise i dont need music on, the car sound bloody horn!
Im gunna kind of compare to my old demo the 06 type S integra. The seats are fantastic, so strong and firm and me being 6'3" hold me in just perfect. The old type S seats were the worst seats ever, didnt do squat!
The gear box is just awsome, smooth quick gear changes that are pretty much effortles. Once this car gets to about 5 1/2 grand i tell u wat the roar is unbelievable. It sounds nothing like the old type S. It screams! and its great watchin the lil vtec light light up!
I decided to take the mrs for a spin around the yarra bend (for melb people u know where it is) being 830pm dark as can be and a lil mist rain. Its like it was ment for the twisties, ive taken heaps of new cars round this bend and this one seems the best so far, its more like being stuck on rails the whole time, VSA had to work a lil but did a great job at all times of need. Doin those bends u dont really need the breaks that much just alot of gear changing from 2nd to 3rd and back again, if u hit 4th u would be doin over 100.
The breaking is outstanding also, it pulls up hard and the ABS comes on at the last 2nd.
The one thing with this car is the sound its just amazing and u want to hear it all the time.
Now if i was given a teg type S i would hand it back, shocking seats, very poor turning circle, crap saftey features, bad blind spots and just annoying to drive in everyday traffic.
I think the best thing about the CTR is u could drive it as a daily and it drives just like a normal car with comfort and ease. The 2nd u want to drive it like it should u have a different car again!
Watching a 50yo man pick up his red one yesterday was a great feeling, hes had a few civics before, hell he even had the 1st one to come to aus in the 70's! He was like a child, couldnt wait to get in and drive it and had the biggest smile ever. In this business @ honda where ive been for 3 years i cant remember the last time we had a customer so happy and excited about a new car. We took his pic of him next to it and sent it to honda aus telling them it was good to get that feeling back again.
Now some of u arnt happy its not a true type R i understand but makin it this way opens it up to a larger market. Id take this over the jap type R sedan as i think that just looks like a normal vti civic riced up with a big wing and has no appeal to me visually( i know the donk is more powerful ect).
Im going to sell one today to an older mother whos kids have grown up and she wants to get rid of the 7 seater and have a lil sports car she can enjoy! i think thats great!
We are finding a few of the performance car people are now ordering them to!
Im also about to get my old man out of the SS and into one and he is very excited.
Just remember this is just my opinion on the car, i love it, i would drive one everyday and i still cant get the smile of my face after driving it, i even had to get the XR5 out at work and drive it just to make sure i wasnt getting to excited over nothing, well i wasnt!
james
u are doing a good job for Honda Australia !
Do they pay u well for these reviews ?
just joking ...
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lol no they dont!
I forgot to say a few bad things....some of the plastics dont line up, in some ways the thai civics a better in some parts and others the uk quality is better than thai. Its hard to explain unless i point it out in the car.
Remembering the engine and gear box is out of japan too.
It takes a bit of getting used to looking in ur rear view and seeing the spoiler split up the rear window too.
im not biased, i just tell it how it is.
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I test drove the Type R this morning and put down a deposit, with the car arriving in approximately 3 weeks. Very very impressive I must say, I was hesitant of the look of the rear but once you see it in person in it blends in with the rest of the car quite well, and looking at the rear from the a distance it looks great. In comparing it to my Integra VTi-R (Hondata, Toda header, Mugen cat back, Injen CAI, 116kw atw) I would say the Civic Type R is definately as quick, but it is so much smoother than my old Integra and seems to take less effort. The gearbox and clutch... delicious. What I was most impressed with is the interior features, they definately compare to a luxury car.
My criticisms are the fuel filler cap, the quality and finish of it is absolutely crap, I don't know why Honda didn't make it colour coded and have it flush with the rear panel like any other Honda. The driving position, for me at 5'8'' the steering wheel obscured the view of the tacho, and after about 10 minutes of adjusting the seat and steering wheel I still couldn't find a position where I could fully see it. Finally the position of the rear spoiler, visability is pretty poor, again why didn't Honda position the spoiler at the top of the window like the concept car.
Overall I was very impressed with the car, and the service and deal I received from my dealer. Just for a comparison I test drove the Golf GTi, Renault Megane Sport, Honda Accord Euro, and the Subaru WRX.
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Well done wazza very happy for ya mate! ;-)
im not biased, i just tell it how it is.
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Hey Wazza
How does the CTR compare to the Golf Gti?
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