Civic Type R $39,990 + On Roads

**krazibone** · 25-06-2007 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by ginganggooly

Well then cranky pants, it's not really a type-r- is it?

If they are going to compete with those cars, the civic will need an extra 500cc's or a turbo, or 500cc's AND a turbo... 148kw and 193nm doesn't cut it compared to the cars you mentioned.

In summary, they've created a car that is slower than it's competitors, is less driveable, rides more harshly but, is similarly equipped - yay for honda. It's like someone in product development couldn't make up their mind about how, where and with whom they wanted this car to compete.

Not sure were you got your source from but alot of consumers are happy with the car. Please test drive one and make your own judgement rather then depending on other peoples comments. I have seen people converting from the EP3 to the FN2 on the UK forums saying that the car is now livable compared to the EP3.

**eriktufa** · 25-06-2007 06:31 PM

test drove one today.

1 word = awesome.

It's worth buying and it felt faster than stock dc5

(no flaming here).

CTR gearbox is much nicer than ITR.

**ginganggooly** · 25-06-2007 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by krazibone

Not sure were you got your source from but alot of consumers are happy with the car. Please test drive one and make your own judgement rather then depending on other peoples comments. I have seen people converting from the EP3 to the FN2 on the UK forums saying that the car is now livable compared to the EP3.

Not sure where I got my source for which comment exactly?
I don't form my opinions based solely on the input from other forumers, and it's presumptuous -and irritating- of you to suggest otherwise.

If someone complains about a ITR/CTR not being "livable", I can't help but be baffled as to why they're buying a car that is targetted towards weekend racers and hardcore enthusiasts. On the other hand, if you're happy with a car for the masses, all power to you, however I'll never agree that a 1345kg civic is worthy of a type-r sticker.

Anyway, back on the weight thing, which stat is actually correct???
UK website lists the mass as 1267kg, Oz lists 1345kg...

1267 sounds a good deal better, I'd consider the car if it was closer to that sort of weight...

**NeRV** · 25-06-2007 06:56 PM

saw the CTR today for the first time in the flesh and honestly it looks 10x better in real life then in the photos we see. Awesome car!

**Tofu** · 25-06-2007 07:08 PM

so ...why is there 2 TypeRs? LOL

what's the point of this UK CTR when they have another TypeR which is and is known to be so much better performance wise? (I compare the two based on performance, since both are called TypeR)...

**ginganggooly** · 25-06-2007 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Tofu

so ...why is there 2 TypeRs? LOL

what's the point of this UK CTR when they have another TypeR which is and is known to be so much better performance wise? (I compare the two based on performance, since both are called TypeR)...

The bean counters in Honda feel that they would make more money by selling the UK spec CTR's in Oz... And they're probably right.

If the JDM CTR was released here, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, in fact I would have pre-ordered it, untested.

**sitta** · 25-06-2007 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Tofu

so ...why is there 2 TypeRs? LOL

what's the point of this UK CTR when they have another TypeR which is and is known to be so much better performance wise? (I compare the two based on performance, since both are called TypeR)...

because all the uk civic are built in uk and there are not the shape that we are getting in australia. So y cant they have their own type r? the previous tye r also built in uk

**UNLS1** · 25-06-2007 07:37 PM

lol the badge says its a type R so it is.

Id take one over the old integra type S anyday, that didnt even deserve a type S badge!

**xtercii** · 25-06-2007 07:45 PM

hahaha you make me laugh buddy, you are a Honda salesman and of course anything released from Honda you will say it's FANTASTIC!! especially this ctr is the first new Honda performance model in quite a while, you would do anything to put gold on it. The only time a car salesman would say anything bad about their own model is when they are trying to push the sale of another.

**Tofu** · 25-06-2007 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by UNLS1

lol the badge says its a type R so it is.

Id take one over the old integra type S anyday, that didnt even deserve a type S badge!

lol before this comment, I actually thought you had some credibility as a Honda sales person...

**krazibone** · 25-06-2007 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by ginganggooly

In summary, they've created a car that is slower than it's competitors, is less driveable, rides more harshly but, is similarly equipped - yay for honda.

This is the quote i am talking about mate. Cars not even out in Sydney and you know all about it already? How do you know it rides harshly? How do you know its slower then most of competitors? The civic is the direct competitor of the GTI and from some UK mags i recall the Civic has out performed the GTI.

With the weight comparison UK has two versions Non-GT and GT while Australia has one, you might want to double check what version it is in the UK.

**jeffske** · 25-06-2007 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by fasthonda

There will be an online forum on Thursday JULY 5th,7:30 P:M,that will give people the opportunity to ask the experts questions about the Civic Type R.
All you need to do is to register.

http://www.hondaexperts.com.au/

someone better warn them to wear their flame suits