Why Not Turbo ??

**Weq** · 24-10-2003 01:14 PM

lol, u cant compare the cost to rebuild a turbine, to that of an engine. Depending on the type, u can have them rebuilt for as low as 300, new ones bought for around $1000.
That bacl smoke pouring out the back of skylines isnt because of the oil seals on thier turbo, its cuase the skyline computers are dumb as shit, and are tuned for japanese conditions.

**one more chance** · 24-10-2003 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Weq

lol, u cant compare the cost to rebuild a turbine, to that of an engine. Depending on the type, u can have them rebuilt for as low as 300, new ones bought for around $1000.
That bacl smoke pouring out the back of skylines isnt because of the oil seals on thier turbo, its cuase the skyline computers are dumb as shit, and are tuned for japanese conditions.

skyline turbos are ceramic wheels which aid with spool up, but once boosted, expect to see parts of the wheel being munched up through the turbo....

**poid** · 24-10-2003 01:39 PM

yup black smoke = running rich

easy to have happen, esp. if you go changing exhausts etc, or upping boost, with the standard ECU in place unmodified.

If it was the turbo that was gone, you'd be seeing blue'ish smoke cos of the oil

**bennjamin** · 24-10-2003 02:48 PM

so WHY DONT get a turbo ?

*wait for it...*

BECAUSE they SUCK !

tetehheheheh....sorry ill shut up now. 8)

**fueltank** · 24-10-2003 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by AP1 F20c

Originally Posted by fueltank

why would you need to rebuild the turbo?

Wear and tear buddy nothing technical, if you do a read-up on how turbines work and how high their RPMs spin to produce the phenomenon power, you'd understand why it has a very short lifetime when compared to NA tuned cars. Not to mention, the older the turbine is, the less efficient it gets and the higher the boost you run, the faster your internals wear. Unlike compared to NA if you constantly maintain a good service history, it doesn't wear out as quickly as TA cars. Realize how those grey imports Skylines you see around the roads constantly pour our black smoke when they gun it? And compare that to a same generation VTi-R for comparisons sake, you'd understand which is more efficient with a higher durability.

Thanks.
My turbo has done over 90,000kms without a rebuild?
How soon you need a rebuild depends how much boost you run in relation to the turbo's efficiency range. But yes you're correct, they are a wear and tear item over maybe 10 or so years.

The black smoke is the car running rich. Skylines from factory run rich.
If you have blown a turbo seal, the smoke you see should be white.

Stock 33 GTST skyline vs stock VTi-R Integra...if looked after properly they'll both be just as durable as the other.