Wheels Magazine Civic Type R review

[Setanta]

The DC2R is a highly praised car and is it is well known for being a genuine street car that can be taken to the track to see its full potential.

I think he means we didn't get the JDM rear suspension setup or the sexier JDM nosecone. We did however, get our motor detuned from JDM spec.

Our DC2R really was the closest we got to a JDM ITR though, our DC5R was a nice beast, but really was just S spec, not R.

[Nepolian]

in terms of handling/luxary vs Straight line performance, its up to personal preference.

if you guys have watched Top Gear(or something like top gear, cant remember what its called), they tested the Mazda 3 MPS, Golf R32 and the BMW 130i. MPS has the quickest laptime. It handles quite well considering the amount of power it has for a FWD. It did beat the Golf R32 which is AWD as well.

I will choose the MPS over the new CTR anyday if i have to pay for anything within that price range. Its bang for your bucks from what i can see.

Thats just my personal opinion.

I have been looking for a "Sports" hatch of late, I have test driven most "Hot" hatches.

From my point of view, I can honestly tell you the R32 was the best overall but just cost too much. MPS 3 was nuts, but I found for a 40k car it felt cheap. It had too much road noise, not very refined.

To my point, I just drove the CTR and I have to say whilst it is under powered it really feels like a complete package, very well refined. The only thing it lacks is about 10 - 20 KW I think, for most people i think it is adequate. Its well built, the finish is great and it is not as bad as the reports are making it.

[Chris_typer]

the finish is great and it is not as bad as the reports are making it.

Think your right, my mate took his FN2 to the track last Friday and ran a 14.1and he recons that wasn't even his best, that was his first try as a warmup. So this article in Wheels may be heavily underestimating the civic's power, needless to say that 'Wheels' is a well respected magazine, this time I think they may have underated the civic just a bit.

[Jaso]

Yah Wheels has been known to get some inconsistent times, not just in this test. They’re fairly objective though. Besides, it’s not the end of the world when the FN2R ran 0-100 in 7.8 in some magazine. Maybe its relative lack of torque could have something to do with it...being a fairly small motor? Could have been the car, low km a range of things. Besides, who buys are car purely on its 0-100 or 1/4 mile time?

For the Civic to win the review against the GTi must have been a rap to the Civic, and they must have liked it quite alot.

[Chris_typer]

Besides, who buys are car purely on its 0-100 or 1/4 mile time?

For the Civic to win the review against the GTi must have been a rap to the Civic, and they must have liked it quite alot.

Well said, apart from the speed of the car I personally loved the new shape, the comfortable seats and the spacious backseats accompanied by all the new technology which is easy to use. Even when TopGear reviewed it late last year when it was released in Europe the guy struggled to find a fault with it and absolutely fell in love with it as most other people including myself have. I'm not trying to wave a flag saying "the civic is the best car in world" because of course that would be ludicrous but it is a quality car and well finished.

[IAMVTEC]

Speed isnt important. The one thing I will praise about FN2 is the variety it brings to Hondas range.

Before this came out the Honda range was as predictable and homogenous as a pakistani election result.

The Civic and the Accord Euro look basically the same and serve same function, most people not into cars cant differentiate between them.

The Accord and Legend look 90% the same from the front.

The CRV and Oddyssey is basically your shopping trolleys with an engine and seats.

Jazz is small car.

s2000 is a disgrace. which other manufacturer would still be selling a 1999 model brand new at dealerships

At least the FN2 has some uniqueness and some pretension of being a sports car.Its a breath of fresh air comapred to Hondas usual tactics

[yfin]

Think your right, my mate took his FN2 to the track last Friday and ran a 14.1and he recons that wasn't even his best, that was his first try as a warmup.

Got a video or at least a slip? I can't see how a vehicle with a power to weight ratio over 9kg per kw can get anywhere close to 14.1. The vehicle would need to be massively under quoted for that to happen. Are you sure your friend didn't say 15.1? Because that is more believable.

By the way the lighter and more powerful JDM 2007 CTR got 14.4 over the quarter by Best Motoring. So the FN2 is way behind that.

[Nepolian]

Gone are the days where people spend odd 40k for a Hard tunes car. Too much competition to do that. End of the day the FN2 has succomb to the reality of overall sales and with it comes compromise. Now it is a more luxurious sports car which has a broader appeal than fanatics. Money talks BS walks

[mpd076-chuck]

Think your right, my mate took his FN2 to the track last Friday and ran a 14.1and he recons that wasn't even his best, that was his first try as a warmup.

I call BS on a 14.1 from a stock FN2 until proven otherwise. How can a car that is 165kg heavier than a DC5R, with slightly shorter gearing and marginally more torque be faster?

[fasthonda]

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By the way the lighter and more powerful JDM 2007 CTR got 14.4 over the quarter by Best Motoring. So the FN2 is way behind that.

Imagine if they did bring out the FD2,of the usual competitors,you would need a Subaru WRX or a 3MPS or a VRX to beat it over the 1/4 mile.However, apart from the WRX, the JDM FD2 would have the measure of the others around a track.

[m0nty ITR]

I call BS on a 14.1 from a stock FN2 until proven otherwise. How can a car that is 165kg heavier than a DC5R, with slightly shorter gearing and marginally more torque be faster?

It can't be. I call shenanigans until I've seen a time slip. I had a play with one tonight on the way home and it's slower than a wet Wednesday compared to the DC5R.

[ginganggooly]

Think your right, my mate took his FN2 to the track last Friday and ran a 14.1and he recons that wasn't even his best, that was his first try as a warmup. .

I think your mate is having a lend of you... 15.1 maybe, 14.1- mmkay.