We just may get the JDM CTR in Australia.

[Hullabaloo]

Was the "official" reason we didn't get the jap spec k20a in our DC5 due to 98 octane not being readily available?
Or is it that regardless of availability, 98 isn't good enough as 100 octane (or higher?) is available in japan?

if reason number 1 was the case, maybe with 98 octane being more more common the chances of us getting a less detuned version?

as a side, are the evos, sti's, ferrari's, etc that australia get all considered detuned?

[xtercii]

I sed "compare" not "compete" why you want to compare between runners @ 100m? I think compare and compete is two diff words dont they? Then again I might just being silly then (like NeoNode sed...)

It is comparing in a way, they are just putting a bunch of human being on a track to compare their sprinting ability by who crosses the line first and who has the fastest time.

[aaronng]

Was the "official" reason we didn't get the jap spec k20a in our DC5 due to 98 octane not being readily available?
Or is it that regardless of availability, 98 isn't good enough as 100 octane (or higher?) is available in japan?

The JDM k20a was tuned for 100RON. We only had max 98RON at the time and that was only in the major cities. As a result, Honda Australia probably specified that the engine be tuned to run on 95RON, hence the power decrease.

as a side, are the evos, sti's, ferrari's, etc that australia get all considered detuned?

Ferraris are not detuned because they are imported under SEVS. They did that because the low sales numbers would ensure a high resale value and that they didn't have to do any crash testing for them over here.

The AUDM STI's and EVO's are detuned. They make much less torque and power than the JDM ones (of course, JDM will always specify 208kW).

[fasthonda]

In regards to Australian petrol,at this time 100RON is not readily available,wasn't Shell going to release a 100RON containing ethanol?
The sulphur content of our petrol is too high and this is also causing problems with new engines being developed by eg Audi,BMW.that is ,can't run in Australia with our quality of petrol.
The Australian Governement needs to legislate and force the oil companies to produce fuel with low sulphur content,good for engines,good for the environment and good for climate change.Such a change in our fuel would at least eliminate one obstacle to Honda or any other car company in importing high performance vehicles ala JDM Civic Type R.
I won't hold my breath

For you technical buffs(I'm not one) some info about the engine of the FD2R-http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/FD2K20AR/index.html

[aaronng]

In regards to Australian petrol,at this time 100RON is not readily available,wasn't Shell going to release a 100RON containing ethanol?

100RON from 1 brand of petrol which is also not available at EVERY Shell station in the country does not count as widespread availability. If we want engines tuned to run on 100RON from the factory, every petrol station of every brand will have to start selling that first.

The sulphur content of our petrol is too high and this is also causing problems with new engines being developed by eg Audi,BMW.that is ,can't run in Australia with our quality of petrol.

No, it is not the sulphur. Sulphur will affect direct injection engines (like those from Audi, BMW, VW and Alfa Romeo's JTS). The K20A is not a direct injection engine, so all sulphur will do is contaminate your engine oil a little sooner.

The Australian Governement needs to legislate and force the oil companies to produce fuel with low sulphur content,good for engines,good for the environment and good for climate change.Such a change in our fuel would at least eliminate one obstacle to Honda or any other car company in importing high performance vehicles ala JDM Civic Type R.
I won't hold my breath

Our fuel is good enough. Even if sulphur reduces the octane rating, the fuel is still tested to 98RON, thus preventing pre-ignition. Honda Australia can decide to tune the FD2R for 98RON instead of the traditional 95RON like they have done. It just depends if they believe that there are enough petrol stations selling 98RON in the country.

[fasthonda]

Ok then, what Honda is saying about our petrol then is a lie?they should have no problem bringing out the JDM CTR ie no tuning of the engine.If they have to detune it then the problem must be our fuel

[aaronng]

Ok then, what Honda is saying about our petrol then is a lie?they should have no problem bringing out the JDM CTR ie no tuning of the engine.If they have to detune it then the problem must be our fuel

JDM CTR is tuned for 100RON. We have only 98RON everywhere. Our 100RON is not available widely enough for them to consider bringing the FD2R still tuned for 100RON.

[Jaso]

At the end of the day theres very little anyone can do to influence weather the FD2R comes to Aus or not. A list of Honda enthusiast's names on a petition supporting the car coming here is very different to that same group of people handing over the sum of money it costs to buy that car...which would be more than the FN2R.

[BusterSonic12]

just detune it and bring it over already!!!

[Hullabaloo]

As much as I'd also love to see it get here to our shores, I still have doubts. I can't see them having two civic type r's here...

I think the biggest mistake they (Honda Australia) could make is to bring a downgraded (no brembros, etc) and detuned one here. If they brought a downgraded one then they might as well not bring one at all.

If the only difference was a slightly detuned engine (eg 154kw vs 166(?)kw jap spec) then I think it might do ok.

[aaronng]

As much as I'd also love to see it get here to our shores, I still have doubts. I can't see them having two civic type r's here...

I think the biggest mistake they (Honda Australia) could make is to bring a downgraded (no brembros, etc) and detuned one here. If they brought a downgraded one then they might as well not bring one at all.

If the only difference was a slightly detuned engine (eg 154kw vs 166(?)kw jap spec) then I think it might do ok.

Well, Spoon already has an ECU mod for the FD2R, so if it was detuned, it would be easy to get it back to needing 100RON.

Not sure about the Brembos, I hope that it does come here (who can resist 4-pots). But it is a longshot considering how Honda Australia likes to snip features out to either reduce the price or make more profit (happened with the Accord Euro and Legend).

[R123]

well yeh.. Lets hope HOnda will keep the brembos for god dame sake if they happen to bring the FD2 here...

come on... hopefully they get the VOice from ppl in regards to DC5.

add another 2k on the price and give the guys the dame break man. i mean u gotta have some talkin points for the car since recaro and momo are gone. Brembos has to Stay..

well i hope my dream come true~~