TODA headers to CL9

[E-Gene]

Only about a week more before I get mine. Can't wait!

[mr747]

how much are these??

[mugen88]

tempting!!
im still debating whether i should sell my ebay knock off header and rt cat and get the toda header. will the performance wise improve that heaps?

This gain is consistant with my Dyno results.

Very good designed headers and worth the dollars but depends what your chasing. Works best with a high flow cat like metal cat. Note that the Toda's are made for a CL7 and you cant use them with your stock CL9 cat set up.

Kit, spend your money on other parts as you will not get the true performance from the Toda's with your curent set up as Aaron pointed out.

[kitbkk]

true that.
ill better save up for audio system instead.
is the header around 1400-1600? if im not mistaken when i heard how much it was last time.

[Cranial]

From what I remember reading some posts long ago, changing the flywheel/clutch/final drive does more for performance than IHE if I am not mistaken... Could it really still be true that IHE would be less effective in acceleration than the tranmission/driveline upgrades, considering the decent power gain shown here?

[itr025]

The gains are for the headers in combination with the Mugen intake. Anyone know what the gains are with just the headers (everything else stock)? I'm not really interested in power figures, just lower end torque improvements.

[aaronng]

From what I remember reading some posts long ago, changing the flywheel/clutch/final drive does more for performance than IHE if I am not mistaken... Could it really still be true that IHE would be less effective in acceleration than the tranmission/driveline upgrades, considering the decent power gain shown here?

Flywheel and final drive will improve acceleration at low and middle RPM. At the top end RPM, it'll be similar to stock. But when you add low, middle and top end RPM up, it's overall better accelerating than stock.

But of course, the usual route is I/H/E/ECU and then go for clutch/flywheel and optionally, the final drive. Labour for installing the clutch, flywheel and opening up the box to install the final drive is expensive.

[aaronng]

true that.
ill better save up for audio system instead.
is the header around 1400-1600? if im not mistaken when i heard how much it was last time.

Was about 1400-1500 during the group buy. Now it should be 1600+.

[mr747]

Was about 1400-1500 during the group buy. Now it should be 1600+.

that much?
pretty expensive just for a header

[Atjo]

that much?
pretty expensive just for a header

MAXIM header is more expensive i think, $2000++

[mr747]

MAXIM header is more expensive i think, $2000++

what a rip for what 10kw for an extra 2000 you can bolt on a turbo

[Cranial]

Thanks Aaron. The reason I ask is that according to TODA_AU, in this thread http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=flywheel, he says:

Fwiw: I always reccomend flywheel, clutch & final drive sets over intake & exhaust because if you put the two cars next to each other.
The stock looking & sounding one, with only the flywheel, clutch & final drive;will chop the noisy bucket (Intake, header, exhaust only) every time...
It will do so, quickly, quietly and by a considerable margin.

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Considerable margin - is he right here? And if he is, what does he mean by considerable? I'm asking because I am planning to do some similar modifications.