is 60000 import the mugen civic RR too expensive?

**m0nty ITR** · 15-08-2007 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

lol!!!!

i love this bit.. Power of dreams yo! keep on dreaming lol

go drive 1 own 1 then you'll see why i am laughing

Oh right, you bought one so it must be better. It's all subjective so we're never gonna agree on this. I like VTEC cars. Their sound, power delivery and drive. You don't. You prefer boosted Lancers. Good for you.

If you're gonna disagree how about coming up with points of interest rather than the usual retarded forum chatter of lol.

**Setanta** · 15-08-2007 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by m0nty ITR

If you're gonna disagree how about coming up with points of interest rather than the usual retarded forum chatter of lol.

You keep saying that but present no real information as to why people should spend 60K on a Civic.

You asked the question and then have a cry because people are saying no, they wouldn't waste the money.

Accept that people might have differing opinions to you and not agree that 60K is value for money in regards to a Civic and you might achieve inner peace.

You'd make a good Holden salesman mind you - they believe that their cars are god's gift to the world too

**m0nty ITR** · 15-08-2007 08:40 PM

Tell me why 60k is too much for a Civic but not too much for an Evo or STi? They're just Japanese sedans too. I've given reasons for buying a $60k Civic whereas you've just said it's a Civic. An Evo is just a Lancer, an STI is just an Impreza, an R32 is just a Golf. Where do you stop? The base may be a Civic but there's so much more to it. Why do people swallow $60k for Gods gift to AWD sedans but won't cop it for a Mugen Civic. Do you buy Tsubi jeans because you think they're honestly a better made pair of pants?

This is after all a Honda enthusiast site. Why wouldn't I be passionate about Hondas? Now how many people here have spent similar money buying a cheaper car and modifying it? That makes perfect sense to us here but we dismiss the idea of buying one direct from Mugen. That doesn't make sense to me. Chuck big wheels, suspension, intercooler, exhaust and other mods on a WRX and you still have a WRX. We do it because we love it. If you look back I wasn't the one that called someone out for feeling the desire to own one.

LOL is often used as a forum term for those that don't have the balls to point the finger in criticism. How is saying I'm a fool for seeing value in a Mugen Civic a rational argument?

**m0nty ITR** · 15-08-2007 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by andiiso

its just like a collectables, some people pay a few grand for a bloody number plate, or collecting pokemon cards or whatever cards are out there, the "limited" ones ar elike a few hundred bux for a picture on a card. Not exactly paying for what its worth for this Mugen RR just paying for the liking of it and it being rare etc.

Spot on. Why have something that everyone else has if you wanna stand out. It's like buying those damn Zephyr 5Zigen chrome wheels at the turn of the century. Every prick had em on a Charade, Mirage and whatever other ricer they'd fit on. Buying a Mugen is something you do for hobby and passion. Buying any performance car isn't rational but sometimes you just wanna do something for yourself.

**slipangle** · 15-08-2007 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by m0nty ITR

Tell me why 60k is too much for a Civic but not too much for an Evo or STi? They're just Japanese sedans too. I've given reasons for buying a $60k Civic whereas you've just said it's a Civic. An Evo is just a Lancer, an STI is just an Impreza, an R32 is just a Golf. Where do you stop? The base may be a Civic but there's so much more to it. Why do people swallow $60k for Gods gift to AWD sedans but won't cop it for a Mugen Civic. Do you buy Tsubi jeans because you think they're honestly a better made pair of pants?

I agree with you, in fact, I had drafted an earlier reply along the same lines as what you have said but decided not to post it and perpetuate the discussion because, if I take a step back and weigh it up, it would be a waste of my time to be involved in a discussion where it seems quite clear that some people can be swayed by the fact that Mitsubishi was clever enough to differentiate the Lancer enough by using the name "EVO" and Subaru are equally as clever as everyone does not immediately associate an STi as an Impreza...furthermore, people can justify aligning a 60K pricetag with what they're actually getting in a Scoobishi...i.e. warmed up versions of their lower end cars,...hmmm, sounds much like a similar formula for a Mugen RR to me.

I suppose it's difficult to refrain from entering a argument when someone makes what we feel is a misguided comment, particularly when little substance is added to the discussion. I empathise with your frustration as, everyone has an opinion, and in a public forum everyone is free to make their opinions heard...whatever they may be(!)...

**andiiso** · 15-08-2007 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Setanta

You keep saying that but present no real information as to why people should spend 60K on a Civic.

well there isnt at all any present information at the same time, why people spend so much on other things, collectables, the pokemon cards and bloody number plates etc.

i guess in the end its just what each person likes, i mean, i think if not everyone out there, most people have something they spent money on that wasnt worth it and had someone say to them "why" and reply would be "cos i like it" or something along the lines of that. So everyones different and 60k is worth it to those who "like" the mugen RR and treat it as a rare thing or something like that... and 60k for a civic ISNT worth it for those who like it but are more of a fan for something else thats 60K etc..

to be honest 60k to me isnt worth it, but i would still get it if i had the chance, just purely cos i like it and theres only 300 made. I dont think you should be comparing cars either, again everyone has own tastes.

**[[d a n n y]]** · 16-08-2007 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by m0nty ITR

Oh right, you bought one so it must be better. It's all subjective so we're never gonna agree on this. I like VTEC cars. Their sound, power delivery and drive. You don't. You prefer boosted Lancers. Good for you.

If you're gonna disagree how about coming up with points of interest rather than the usual retarded forum chatter of lol.

i bought 1 cuz it's a better car and i could afford it
i've been playing with a shit load of hondas...i've had experiences with many different hondas...
i've seen alot of people like u who are stuck in the Honda supreme thought..
wake up and get out of your little fantasy.
the cars are more expensive bcuz it's a better car.
dont get me wrong i love my honda awsome built quality awsome n/a engines. but.. wake up mate. there are better cars within the same price range..
so there fore the mugen RR is not worth it

**aaronng** · 16-08-2007 01:48 PM

To me, the better car is the car you like best. Others might like this RR better, while for me, an E36 M3 is nicer for 20k less than this RR. No point telling people which is better because everyone has his or her own preferences.