Notchy 2nd & 3rd gear is becoming a honda trend these days... Honda Australia have the worst service. You tell them about Honda overseas have notified the problem... and they say we havent heard of it.. I hate how they act dumb. Get the problem fixed before you continue selling more honda's with dodgy gear box's
Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".
As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!
Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.
For your information, this issue has occured in both models DC5R, EP3, S2000 and now the new CTR. Ive emailed honda japan about this issue and got a written response saying they have never heard of the issue.. Honda Australia then was in contact with me stateing that they have never heard of the issue either.
Below are links with over 50 pages of people with the same problem from the states & Australia with people with problems with their dc5r gear box.
So actually before you say something do some research... as hundreds of people around the world have this very same issue... so keep your comments to yourself unless you actually know about this issue. As i know much more about this problem then you do. Obviously you have no idea & Honda needs to fix this issue before releasing more cars as it continues from 2001 - 2007
S2000-there are k20/6speed cars all over the world with various problems, from notchy 2nd when cold to gears popping out and 3rd gear issues.
these cars ranging from DC5R (AUDM & JDM), RSX-S, EP3R.
thers is not a single forum relating to any of these cars that i have read that dont talk about the varuious issues relating to the gearboxes of these cars.
there must be 1000's if not 10000's of cars (worldwide) with dramas and Honda Aus had done **** all about it
and to date there are TSB's in both the USA and UK realting to these problems. to date i havent been able to confirm if theres a TSB for the DC5R (JDM). and there absolutely nothing from Honda Aus. Honda Australia wont even look at the TSB's...
Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".
As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!
Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.
Your wrong !!
Maybe honda need to trial the car longer before the release...seems like Honda has a bit of pressure to release there cars because their competion seems to be throwing cars at us
If they do this then they'll have no problems, and then we won't complain all happy, instead they doing a microsoft on us-----> release the product and report problems, then fix. Consumers these days demand a good product especially off Honda and especially if you pay $40,000 + for a car. It is a Honda at the end of the day, not a KIA.
All those who bought their FN2Rs, Honda Australia should send you a survey to complete and also give you a checkup call about a week after purchase. You must let them know about the 3rd gear at that time.
All those who bought their FN2Rs, Honda Australia should send you a survey to complete and also give you a checkup call about a week after purchase. You must let them know about the 3rd gear at that time.
Yeah your totally right Aaronng....go to your dealership aswell and demand it fixed....even better go there (dealership) armed with copies of this thread tell them not to bullshit because the cat is out of the bag, thanks once again to ozhonda and it's members. Get your service manager to call Honda head office while you there. Call head office aswell put in a complaint yourself too. Don't leave till you get answers....
Also send heaps of emails so you have proof that you did contact them....important because these ppl will deny everything...I have had my own issues with these guys at honda, they practice dirty tactics.
Last edited by LXRY; 24-08-2007 at 08:30 AM.
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Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".
As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!
Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.
would you pay $40,000+ for something that you knew had faults with it?
if a company continue'd to produce the product knowing that it had the fault and something bad happened then they could be done for negligence.
i hope they dont ignore their customers coz all it takes is 1 rooted thing to take a good brand spiraling down. I've always had the view that honda produced really good vehicles but i dont think this 3rd gear issue is something that i would be satisfied with if i bought a CTR.
and of course honda know that the issue exists... sif they don't? they just gotta be careful about how they deal with it in order to not tarnish their rep.
I honestly think its not really a mechanical problem as such.
More to do with the inconsistency of the gearbox that catches most people
3rd gear (or 2nd gear for DC5 and AP1 owners) feels different to the rest of the gearbox in that the clutch needs to be all the way to the floor. Most times you get away with not doing things, and the other gears you can get away with pressing the clutch half way. I cant help but wonder, if Honda made all the gears needing clutch to the floor, would there be so many complaints? Thats my opinion anyway.
With the Euro, the clutch bite point for the newer models is somewhere near the bottom, so you do have to get your clutch pedal all the way down before you can shift. Those of you complaining about 3rd gear popping out, do you shift with partial clutch or full clutch? Does it happen during normal driving or when you are driving "spiritedly"?
Thanks for your thoughts but this is incorrect with the dc5r ... its caused from 5th and 6th gear set.. the syncro's are rough which causes drag on second gear... they made a revised 5th & 6th gear set in japan to fix this issue... and made a service bulletin in the states... to change 5th & 6th gear to the revised set... which fixes the notchy second gear... issue... But won't bring the fix here as Honda Australia deny's there is an issue. They rather just replace 2nd gear under warranty which doesn't resolve anything... If you dont have warranty your pretty much screwed i think its a similar issue with the CTR... but the cause hasnt been discovered as yet. It is not a human driving fault.. its not something so easy as pressing the clutch in all the way otherwise everyone would do it.
I've got a quick fix...........hit top speed down EC straight in 6th or 5th then be a sick carnt and BANG IT into 1st...........I reckon it'll loose the 3rd gear along with some valve train as well.
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