Shifting down into 1st problem...

[dupac->]

lol it prob was fine for the first month..

but then u kept on doing it..

so its kinda messed up ur synchros i guess..

the more u did it... the more you damaged it..

so nows it more noticeable when going into 1st gear.

just go into first on stand still thats it..

to make it more clear. dont bother if ur still rolling... unless u BLIP the accelerator.. and at the right speed..

but yeah goodluck with it

[spetz]

I don't go into 1st when moving but if need be (say I need the power urgently) then I double clutch it in and goes in without issues

[twing]

Lol thats how i do it.
When im slowing down in second, and its just before the car starts shuddering because its too slow for second, i clutch in and try to go to 1st (must be under 20km by then) and its too stiff, i MUST be stopped.

Anyway, does this sound like an issue, or its just part of having a manual?

Have you tried the double clutch?
clutch in
shift 2 to neutral
clutch out
clutch in
shift neutral to one
clutch out

[1996ek1]

Have you tried the double clutch?
clutch in
shift 2 to neutral
clutch out
clutch in
shift neutral to one
clutch out

na not enough road left by that time to double clutch... lol
I'll just get to stop then 1st from now on.

thx guys

[Mr_will]

na not enough road left by that time to double clutch... lol
I'll just get to stop then 1st from now on.

thx guys

you shouldnt double clutch it back into first unless you need to take off in a bit of a hurry. unless youre bloody good at it, youre very likely to mis-match the revs, which if you continue with on an ongoing basis, will cause significant wear to your syncros also.

the reason your car starts to shudder is, as you probably know, that in 2nd your revs are too low for that gear.

the solution is to start letting the clutch out slowly when that happens, and roll to a stop.

be kind to your gearbox, wait until youve come to a stop, and then a moment, then put it into first. in the long run you will get many more kms out of your box doing it this way

[civic__dd]

na not enough road left by that time to double clutch... lol
I'll just get to stop then 1st from now on.

thx guys

Iv had to adopt this. Mine has one the same and the gearbox has been little less forgiving than it was to start with. Its probably just worn to the part where its becoming a problem.

[bennjamin]

1st gear is only to get you moving under high load - you shouldnt ever put it back into 1st while moving. Slow down , stop then put it into 1st.

[sid]

This could help.

[1996ek1]

This could help.

Are you taking the piss here, or serious? lol

[markCivicVti]

Well there is an article on down shifting. And it says somewhere there not to downshift into first.

[1996ek1]

I'm not acctually going into first, im only putting it in first and still HOLDING in the clutch. Just so yous are clear on that....

[markCivicVti]

Lol thats how i do it.
When im slowing down in second, and its just before the car starts shuddering because its too slow for second, i clutch in and try to go to 1st (must be under 20km by then) and its too stiff, i MUST be stopped.


Anyway, does this sound like an issue, or its just part of having a manual?

Well, from what i gather it seems your gearbox is struggling to keep it going in second. I drive an auto so I'm no expert. But aren't you normally able to stay in second until just before the car stops? If your car starts shuddering in second while still moving at over 4km/h then doesn't this ring warning bells?

But I suggest (once again I'm no expert) that you go to nuetral from second as you are just about to stop. Then either go to first (if completely stopped) or second (if you are still moving slightly) when you need to take off.


At what speed does the car start shuddering in second?

EDIT: I know the issue is with 1st gear... but this could be related.