[Euro] Hondata Update

[docker]

Yeah I'm agreeing with most of you guys about paying all the amount upfront and then having to wait for a product no one has reviewed. Don't like that.

I thought originally going back some years now when I first asked James about the Hondata ECU upgrade they were making an extreme ECU upgrade for the Euro no matter if you had aftermarket bolt ons like exhaust or headers already.

I was suprised to see when the product was released I could only get the mild ECU upgrade and if I wanted the extreme I needed to buy all the other JTune bolt ons, which means removing/selling most of the bolts on I have now ... so in affect I'd be paying for the same things twice.

I know JTune are trying to make money as all business should but if they were to release the extreme ECU upgrade only without having to buy the JTune bolt ons they would probably get a lot more buyers wouldn't they?

If I get an ECU upgrade and that's a big "IF" as there are too many unknowns at the moment it can only be the mild upgrade and that's a shame.

[badthing]

Yeah I'm agreeing with most of you guys about paying all the amount upfront and then having to wait for a product no one has reviewed. Don't like that.

I thought originally going back some years now when I first asked James about the Hondata ECU upgrade they were making an extreme ECU upgrade for the Euro no matter if you had aftermarket bolt ons like exhaust or headers already.

I was suprised to see when the product was released I could only get the mild ECU upgrade and if I wanted the extreme I needed to buy all the other JTune bolt ons, which means removing/selling most of the bolts on I have now ... so in affect I'd be paying for the same things twice.

I know JTune are trying to make money as all business should but if they were to release the extreme ECU upgrade only without having to buy the JTune bolt ons they would probably get a lot more buyers wouldn't they?

If I get an ECU upgrade and that's a big "IF" as there are too many unknowns at the moment it can only be the mild upgrade and that's a shame.

There's no way for an extreme reflash to be released without matching parts. All the Jtune parts are made to work together with the reflash taking advantage of the specific parameters of the Jtune package. That's why the mild reflash allows other aftermarket brands eg. Injen, K&N, Comptech to be used in conjunction. (There's a larger tolerance factored in.)

With the extreme package, the tolerances are tighter to enable a much higher performance boost (specific parts compliment each other, minimum 98RON fuel, Australian environment, etc). Only when the key factors are met (the Jtune package: I/H/E, cat, gasket, extreme flash) can Jtune guarantee the performance of their "Extreme package".

Really, you wouldn't turn up at a posh restaurant with a can of VB, ask them to cook the piece of rump you bought on special at the supermarket and expect the experience to be anywhere close to the same standard as what they normally serve (matching wine with food over several courses).

If you want to take advantage of your existing mods, then custom tune your car. The Extreme flash is not for you because that's tuned to work only with Jtune parts. As you can appreciate, it's not feasible for any company to do R&D on the countless combinations/packages possible for aftermarket parts.

[Merlin086]

Well, after much deliberation over this, I am committing myself. (maybe I should be ...lol)
I have never been a gambler, but am prepared to take a punt on this, someone has to be a guinea pig...lol


I am not looking at it as a business proposition, if so I would have bought a cheaper more economical car, and not modded at all.I've been driving uninspiring family hacks for a few years now as a matter of necessity.

Yes I admit,it is simply a matter of self indulgence, but the cars many of us drive are indulgent, along with many of the modifications we do. Damn it, a top end set of rims and tyres will set you back 4k, body kit 4k+, etc

Personally I have not touched my car mechanically, in anticipation of these mods since purchasing the car Dec 06.

I had considered purchasing another V6 accord, but the driver experience of the euro sold me, if only they offered the 177kw v6 in the euro....mmmm...and all that torque!


But honestly, despite their cashflow problems or whatever,
I am hoping that all their delays are behind them, hopefully having been sorted in the design and prototype manufacture stage. If not I am sure ther will be such an outcry that It would totally destroy their reputation.

As for the delay, I have purchased items from O/S before, had to pay up front and wait up to 10 wks, especially with customs involved.
I am sure many of you have spent 1K> on car parts from O/S with similar conditions.

Personally I am prepared to take the punt, save $800
and go for the extreme only because I have no engine mods to date.

I can understand the dilemma for all those who have already partially modded..............

Anyway...I'm gonna stick my neck out..

[badthing]

Good for you Merlin. My views are similar in that the goods purchased overseas are prepaid anyway and people spend easily $4K or more on suspension, rims, tyres alone so it's amusing to see people whinge. Interested to know how you go. I've budgeted money for a macpro workstation so I might miss out on the pre-order.

[tony1234]

Well, after much deliberation over this, I am committing myself. (maybe I should be ...lol)
I have never been a gambler, but am prepared to take a punt on this, someone has to be a guinea pig...lol


I am not looking at it as a business proposition, if so I would have bought a cheaper more economical car, and not modded at all.I've been driving uninspiring family hacks for a few years now as a matter of necessity.

Yes I admit,it is simply a matter of self indulgence, but the cars many of us drive are indulgent, along with many of the modifications we do. Damn it, a top end set of rims and tyres will set you back 4k, body kit 4k+, etc

Personally I have not touched my car mechanically, in anticipation of these mods since purchasing the car Dec 06.

I had considered purchasing another V6 accord, but the driver experience of the euro sold me, if only they offered the 177kw v6 in the euro....mmmm...and all that torque!


But honestly, despite their cashflow problems or whatever,
I am hoping that all their delays are behind them, hopefully having been sorted in the design and prototype manufacture stage. If not I am sure ther will be such an outcry that It would totally destroy their reputation.

As for the delay, I have purchased items from O/S before, had to pay up front and wait up to 10 wks, especially with customs involved.
I am sure many of you have spent 1K> on car parts from O/S with similar conditions.

Personally I am prepared to take the punt, save $800
and go for the extreme only because I have no engine mods to date.

I can understand the dilemma for all those who have already partially modded..............

Anyway...I'm gonna stick my neck out..

Make sure you wait till the day before the cutoff for the group buy(Oct.14th.i think)before you sign up!!

[aaronng]

We'll also be eagerly waiting for your review.

[Merlin086]

We'll also be eagerly waiting for your review.

Not too eager I hope......lol

[aaronng]

Not too eager I hope......lol

You'll be able to give an unbiased (except to your money) and unrestricted review since you are not bound by their NDA.

[ENVSSS]

Like the rest of you guys I’m itching to get the upgrade, especially the extreme package. The only thing holding me back is the lack of feedback from those who have had their euro as test pilots for some time now. I would put my order in straight away if I even knew what the gear looked like on the car, mainly the exhaust. Other than a couple of shots on the Jtune website, that's all I’ve got to go off. It would be good to get some photos of a Jtune Euro or even a dodgy youtube vid of the exhaust.

[pilotb777_300]

hey guys quick question.... does anyone have any idea of 0-100 times for an 03 manual euro with K&N intake and mild ECU update ? I know it does about 7.6 sec 0-100 stock... is it wishfull thinking to expect anything around 7 sec flat or under ?

[EUR003act]

yeah it would be wishfull... you could get it to 7.5 maybe?

[pilotb777_300]

yeah it would be wishfull... you could get it to 7.5 maybe?

Damn

0.3 sec improvement thats not much fo almost 1500 bucks !