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  1. #1009
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    Nice, is there much sound/power difference without the centre muffler?
    Jazz: stock, K&N panel filter.
    120 Series Prado GXL Petrol: Pacemaker extractors, Dual 2 1/4" exhaust, 70 series MT STZ's, ARB non-winch bullbar, snorkel, Dimpled and slotted rotors.

  2. #1010
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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    yeah is was done in shootout mode... and yes i know its not comparable to all other dynos, im justtrying to show the guy who bought that k&n CAI that he's not loosing power...
    Thanks for posting the graph. That dyno is reading way too high for some reason. Maybe it wasn't calibrated properly, I'm not really sure.

    In SRI mode there is less loss of power/torque down low due to the pipe being shorter but you will definitely be losing power after driving for a while due to the intake breathing in hot air from the engine bay. The solution around that would be install a heatshield around the pod. There's 3 solutions for that from what I've seen:

    1. Gruppe M Intake with CF heatshield
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...em+intake+euro
    2. J's racing Intake with heatshield and bumper ducting (similar to Mugen)
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62499
    3. Aaron's ghetto style heatshield
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53595

    In full CAI mode, whether it is the K&N or Injen system, due to the length of the tube (even with the new tuned system) you will lose some power and torque in the low end but gain on the top end.

  3. #1011
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodaz View Post
    Thanks for posting the graph. That dyno is reading way too high for some reason. Maybe it wasn't calibrated properly, I'm not really sure.

    In SRI mode there is less loss of power/torque down low due to the pipe being shorter but you will definitely be losing power after driving for a while due to the intake breathing in hot air from the engine bay. The solution around that would be install a heatshield around the pod. There's 3 solutions for that from what I've seen:

    1. Gruppe M Intake with CF heatshield
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...em+intake+euro
    2. J's racing Intake with heatshield and bumper ducting (similar to Mugen)
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62499
    3. Aaron's ghetto style heatshield
    http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53595

    In full CAI mode, whether it is the K&N or Injen system, due to the length of the tube (even with the new tuned system) you will lose some power and torque in the low end but gain on the top end.
    another one is the comptech just without the CF bit but hey, more affordable

    130kw... quite unbelievable, any other cars that day u did? what were their result?
    '03 Integra DC5 Type R

    Wakefield Park: 1:13.047 w/ street tyres
    Eastern Creek Int'l Raceway: 1:57.969 w/ street tyres
    Power: 155Kw with Mugen N1 ECU

  4. #1012
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    Yup, the best gauge will be to see what other cars did that day.
    | cusco strut brace : toda headers : metal cat : fujitsubo legalisR : comptech SS : mugen visors : mugen CF airbox : euroR badges : custom 3M floor mats |

  5. #1013
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    Your A/F ratios are very good. Do you have ECU tuning there? It's very impressive for the stock ECU to stay between 11.8 to 12.5:1 at VTEC. To compare, mine was between 10.7 to 10.9:1 in VTEC, which is very rich and robs the engine of some power.
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  6. #1014
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Your A/F ratios are very good. Do you have ECU tuning there? It's very impressive for the stock ECU to stay between 11.8 to 12.5:1 at VTEC. To compare, mine was between 10.7 to 10.9:1 in VTEC, which is very rich and robs the engine of some power.
    nah never tuned... id done a 600km drive on 98ron with octane booster the day before... and it was cold... other cars their all got similar to what they had got on previous runs.... so i dont think the dyno was out...

    i only had SRI on at that stage because it was winter in canberra (no worries for engine temp! i now have full CAI installed with summer coming along... if i get my headers and UR pulleys before the next dyno do ill be there...

    in regards to sound difference without centre muffler - i removed both the big ass hotdog and centre muffler (had custom straight through piping made up). but high freg hyundai style sound was happening... so got high flow resonator put in... sounds pretty much stock now (except at WOT) ask Suntzu, he's heard and seen it...

  7. #1015
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    what's octane booster?
    '03 Integra DC5 Type R

    Wakefield Park: 1:13.047 w/ street tyres
    Eastern Creek Int'l Raceway: 1:57.969 w/ street tyres
    Power: 155Kw with Mugen N1 ECU

  8. #1016
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    Quote Originally Posted by BusterSonic12 View Post
    what's octane booster?
    its a fual additive... you basically pour a litre of the stuff into a full tank, it increases your ron level from say 98 to more around the 104 mark...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    its a fual additive... you basically pour a litre of the stuff into a full tank, it increases your ron level from say 98 to more around the 104 mark...
    Those boosters work best with standard unleaded. If you use 98 ron you will not get 6 points - tests show them closer to 99 or 100 ron with 98.

  10. #1018
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    whats the centre muffler? explain to me ?

  11. #1019
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    Euro has 4 mufflers stock...

    two in the centre, then the piping splits and goes to the two rear ones... creates alot of back preassure, but makes it quiet as all hell... so i took out the centre two, allowig the gases to flow alot smoother...

    and yeah yfin prob was around 100, i have no idea, i was just taking rough guess

  12. #1020
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    Quote Originally Posted by yfin View Post
    Those boosters work best with standard unleaded. If you use 98 ron you will not get 6 points - tests show them closer to 99 or 100 ron with 98.
    u serious!! where can i get these? any harm?
    '03 Integra DC5 Type R

    Wakefield Park: 1:13.047 w/ street tyres
    Eastern Creek Int'l Raceway: 1:57.969 w/ street tyres
    Power: 155Kw with Mugen N1 ECU

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