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	I don't think you understand the extent of this - it was not a few PQ points that were "iffy". This was a group of members who went from low PQ points to over 1000 points in a few days/week by repping bs posts of each other. If they wanted respect and fairness they wouldn't abuse the system. Putting them back to zero points and requiring them to earn 1 point to sell is getting off lightly.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by destrukshn   okay, sure people have abused this system.alot of people have.
 i've seen some mods even do it.
 meh it's a fact of life.
 doesn't mean all of the posts were irrelevant, and useless.
 meh, i can't remember how many dud ones i've recieved from random members here on the forum, take them away from me, don't really, care. lol.
 as long as i get to retain member status, not really caring about points.
 but, in my view, strip all the points away, but if they had member status before the PQ system came in, they should retain it.
 to make it a tad fairer, because they did earn that member status in the first place before the PQ system was implemented and then abused.
 i don't really join in discussions, but this is kinda gone out of hand aye.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							As above. IMO case closed and dont do it again abusers !
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							no, i do understand it.i understand completly, i'm just stating my view, that, they at least should retain member status, if they have earned it before the PQ system was implemented.
 that is all.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							who cares if they spam rep points? its not like the more green dots u have, the better human being u become.. i think ozhonda over-reacted to this whole situation..
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							This is a website and rules are implemented , and since people abused the rules they get set as an example to others.
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	Ppl used to actually get banned for abusing the PQ points by accumulating infarctions, even if they were old members. In this incident, just removing the points and going back to newcomer status is pretty lenient. Since they have already been a member for so long, all they need is 1 PQ point and don't have to serve the waiting period.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by destrukshn   no, i do understand it.i understand completly, i'm just stating my view, that, they at least should retain member status, if they have earned it before the PQ system was implemented.
 that is all.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	but yeah reading the terms, newcomer = cant sell in the forsale section
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by bennjamin   Its not such a biggie - who cares if you are a newcomer or member....your friends still know who you are   where member can post up a new thread and sell items.
 
 and its a
  for those who were a member before the pq system started. 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	If they were members before the PQ system and they are members of the community, they should have known better to abuse the system.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by JDM.Power   and its a    for those who were a member before the pq system started.   
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							To add to that, this forum is not all about selling.If that is the only real downer for setting their status back to 0, then i say tough titties.
 Maybe they shouldve thought about this before abusing the system.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by Q_ball   To add to that, this forum is not all about selling.If that is the only real downer for setting their status back to 0, then i say tough titties.
 Maybe they shouldve thought about this before abusing the system.
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	It's either you retain your member status or get a temporary ban.  As said.....you should be glad that after all you and the others have done you're still able to post. You don't have any idea as to how much of our time and effort you wasted by your little games.  We don't just invent rules/systems on this site.....we do it for a reason and you of all people should know this.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by gReY-oNe   at leats leave us with ONE point so we can continue to be memebers and not get stuck with newcomer status that way we CANT give out points ANYWAY at least give us the right to sell
 im pretty sure some of us were memebers even b4 the pq point system was introduced
 
 not like we havnt earnt out memeber status in the past
 not like we havnt contributed to this forum enough
 not all our post are bogus
 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by dzyn3   yeah, but grey-one was a member, before the PQ system was implemented, so wouldn't it still be at least somewhat fair, that grey-one got at least member status? 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by destrukshn   no, i do understand it.i understand completly, i'm just stating my view, that, they at least should retain member status, if they have earned it before the PQ system was implemented.
 that is all.
 
 
 
	I think you've underestimated WHY we brought the system in.  If you have a system and someone abuses it......why have it all if people are going to walk all over it.   Can you elaborate as to how we've overreacted?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by kazam   who cares if they spam rep points? its not like the more green dots u have, the better human being u become.. i think ozhonda over-reacted to this whole situation.. 
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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