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 Originally Posted by happy
How much DC for parking sensors mate ?
ummm... 4-5 hundred can't really remember. your better off buying an after market one. its cheaper that way.
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I'm not sure if it's my stock tyres lack of grip or the lack of stability bar which is causing my car to not feel that great when I corner hard.
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 Originally Posted by JaCe
I'm not sure if it's my stock tyres lack of grip or the lack of stability bar which is causing my car to not feel that great when I corner hard.
Have you checked your tire pressure?
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^Jace, do you mean by the car since you bought it or just recently? Because let me assure you, I just brought my car on some very twisty roads and I can assure you that the civic in stock (just 17" rims with 225/45/17) form corners very very good.
Oops... I'll just post more opinions on my Cusco 3pt as promised.
I've driven on the Spurs (A very twisty road in VIC) a couple of times in my civic before the strut bar and just yesterday, I did another run in my car. tbh, when i first installed it, it wasn't like getting my 17", I didn't notice any differnce right away. Roundabouts, Free on-off ramps still felt similiar, gave me abit more confidence. The car still does roll (I know it isnt supposed to help but I'll just point it out for people who don't know). However, When I really pushed it very very hard on the twisty roads (By Hard I mean kicking the ABS during braking, tyres pretty much understeering on some bends)... I really noticed the diff between no strut bar and with... the car just gave me so much more confidence, even when the car is slightly understeering, I was still felt confident that it'll sort itself. Before I had the strut bar, when I went into the same corners, I was nowhere as daring, the car just didn't give me confidence at all. One Thing I noticed different between getting Strut's on this compared to Struts on a Prelude, Because this is 3 point... it seems to strengthen the Chassis and not only balancing the load of the 2 front suspensions.
Overall, for a 300+AUD mod, it gives very very good result. Next up to improve my handling, Camber kits, Rear ARB, Rear Strutbar and Coilovers . If You're looking for something to improve your cornering during normal driving, I highly doubt it'll improve much... I honestly can't tell the diff... you have to start pushing hard to actually notice the difference.
Last edited by andyhui01; 15-10-2007 at 07:07 PM.
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 Originally Posted by bangers178
ummm... 4-5 hundred can't really remember. your better off buying an after market one. its cheaper that way.
my personal opinion, get the genuine one(color match), after market sometimes come with black plastic sensor(unless ur car is black).that's my $0.02
 Originally Posted by andyhui01
^Jace, do you mean by the car since you bought it or just recently? Because let me assure you, I just brought my car on some very twisty roads and I can assure you that the civic in stock (just 17" rims with 225/45/17) form corners very very good.
Overall, for a 300+AUD mod, it gives very very good result. Next up to improve my handling, Camber kits, Rear ARB, Rear Strutbar and Coilovers  . If You're looking for something to improve your cornering during normal driving, I highly doubt it'll improve much... I honestly can't tell the diff... you have to start pushing hard to actually notice the difference.
does VTi-L come with 17" already ???
if no diff for normal driving, i don't think would get it. i'm not kind of racer
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strut bars are designed for high speed stability and twisties not normal street driving
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 Originally Posted by dmx
my personal opinion, get the genuine one(color match), after market sometimes come with black plastic sensor(unless ur car is black).that's my $0.02
does VTi-L come with 17" already ???
if no diff for normal driving, i don't think would get it. i'm not kind of racer 
What I meant by that is my only mod is 17" rims with 224/45 tyres ... sorry for the mixup
and xqwzit, you're spot on... if someone took out my strutbar and I drove it to uni/shops/going out the next day, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference... but take it to the back roads and I'll notice it right away.
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After installing my 2 point ultra racing front strut bar, i went for a drive to Monbulk. For those whos familiar with the road to Monbulk from the city, its all bendy roads and speeds between 60-80. Thats when i noticed the strut bar kicking in. I noticed i didnt have to slow down as much when going around the bendy track.
My bar is nowhere near as expensive as CUSCO. Mayve the CUSCO is a little bit better than my Ultra Racing?
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^I think it has something to do with the 3 point that not only balances the load of the suspension, but to provide extra chassis support as well which is why it was pretty expensive for a Strut Bar. But the Cusco 3 point wouldn't have fit in your FD2 anyway.
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VTi-L comes with 16s doesn't it? Mine came with 15s since I bought it at launch. Tyre pressure should be fine- I think I should also add that I'm referring to local gravel (not-very-smooth) roads in my area...
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