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  1. #85
    i dont see why peak power means so much ? EVEN more so on the smaller capacity , the less it means lol. Ever heard of useable torque ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    i dont see why peak power means so much ? EVEN more so on the smaller capacity , the less it means lol. Ever heard of useable torque ?
    yeah i agree... the term "best" is just a bit subjective just like "performance" can be attributed to power,handling,economy.

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    but now i think about, is there any point in aiming to maximise torque on 1.6l donks? look at the 2 main ones, B16 & 4age20v... stroke vs bore ratio is designed for them to rev reliably to make the power.... gaining torque seems a waste to me... maybe not on B18c and upwards...

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    speaking of flywheels... get my PM Ben?
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    If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.

  3. #87
    well the fact is you cant gain low/mod range torque on a 1.6. Thats why they gain power with revs. Works well on lighter cars.
    You dont "feel" peak power in a 1.6 compared to a 1.8 or 2.0 or whatever - sorry guys im knocking this conversation dont mind me lol.

    IMO the best 1.6 out there ever is the B16a from 88 to 00. Same thing and it works

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    i don't think theres much competition to the b16a/b if you look at the amount of aftermarket support available and the potential it has as a 1.6L motor. sure there are other good 1.6L motors but i think the b16a/b tops them all because this.

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    b16a/b both the best.. 4get bout the toyota engine.. jus compare the no. of ppl driving a b16 with the ones driving the 4AG 20valve.. the ratio is like 100:1.. haha..

    the best 1.6l engine is without a shadow of a doubt.. the B16 family of Honda.. and also i drive a b16a

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    Quote Originally Posted by VT1-R View Post
    b16a/b both the best.. 4get bout the toyota engine.. jus compare the no. of ppl driving a b16 with the ones driving the 4AG 20valve.. the ratio is like 100:1.. haha..

    the best 1.6l engine is without a shadow of a doubt.. the B16 family of Honda.. and also i drive a b16a
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    The best 1.6L is the one you have in your car at the moment because it is keeping your car moving.
    most reliable definitely b16a 6 years and on 275K and still going strong.... we've put 200K on it lol

    hard to get that much out of a d series.... kms wise....you push it once you go over 200K...usually motor change rofl....

    zc was cool in the day....same as d rofl...over 200K..usually motor change rofl... or chassis rusting or falling apart lol

    but depends on the driver....
    blah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    The 4A-GE has one advantage. If your timing belt snaps, your valves don't get mashed.
    I am sure u wont bet $$$ on that single advantage.. haha.. honda's reliability as stated above is 270 000km and still going strong.. haha..

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    my grandfather has a 4AGE AE92 corolla, its done 275kms and the only thing he has had to replace was the clutch and timing chain. thats reliability. and i found that it was a better engine to drive with than a b16a. felt punchier down low, and i love the sound of it at 7500rpm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel The Mole View Post
    my grandfather has a 4AGE AE92 corolla, its done 275kms and the only thing he has had to replace was the clutch and timing chain. thats reliability. and i found that it was a better engine to drive with than a b16a. felt punchier down low, and i love the sound of it at 7500rpm...
    have u really driven a b16a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VT1-R View Post
    have u really driven a b16a?
    I have. They are pretty comfortable and linear. When in a 1150kg car, it is not fast. I prefer the B18C to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VT1-R View Post
    have u really driven a b16a?
    yes i have, why do you ask??
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