HID's for the Euro

**aaronng** · 13-11-2007 10:15 AM

Yup, I missed out the "not"

I reckon it will still be brighter than halogens, but the light just spills everywhere and blinds oncoming traffic.

**my_vtec77** · 13-11-2007 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by EUR003act

i think you meant to say ISN'T as good... ?

halogen and HID globes have different focal points... therefore, placing a HID in a housing designed for halogens, will most times actually give you less light on the road, but alot more glare... if you want to do it for the look, then go for it, but you'll sacrifice some output... if you want brighter headlights, try xexon charged phillips 50+ globes...

Are these philips globes as bright as OEM HIDs? I thinking of getting those instead. Coz aftermarket cheap HIDs give too much drama.

Just wondering, to put those philips globes, do i need to remove front bumper?

**EUR003act** · 13-11-2007 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by my_vtec77

Are these philips globes as bright as OEM HIDs? I thinking of getting those instead. Coz aftermarket cheap HIDs give too much drama.

Just wondering, to put those philips globes, do i need to remove front bumper?

not as bright as OEM HIDs in the proper HID housing no... but they will be brighter than the stock halogens...

as aaronng said, HIDs in no HID housing will spill light everywhere, you dont get the proper "lighting" half the output will go up into the air

**aaronng** · 13-11-2007 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by my_vtec77

Are these philips globes as bright as OEM HIDs? I thinking of getting those instead. Coz aftermarket cheap HIDs give too much drama.

No, OEM HIDs are brighter. But, are you going to spend over 1k to get new lux headlights, D2S bulbs and ballast?

Originally Posted by my_vtec77

Just wondering, to put those philips globes, do i need to remove front bumper?

No, go through the engine bay. There is a round removable plastic cover behind the headlight.

**applio** · 13-11-2007 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by my_vtec77

Are these philips globes as bright as OEM HIDs? I thinking of getting those instead. Coz aftermarket cheap HIDs give too much drama.

Just wondering, to put those philips globes, do i need to remove front bumper?

dont wast your money on them, there are even worse than the stock halogen! u cant see anything at rain!!! with those philips "HID" look bulbs!

**applio** · 13-11-2007 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Yup, I missed out the "not"

I reckon it will still be brighter than halogens, but the light just spills everywhere and blinds oncoming traffic.

not 100% ture, if you had a projector housing, you still got the clear cut off line, you just dont got the autoleveling system, but you can manuel adjusting it, and also not the wash system!

some OEM HID are come in reflector houisng too, the r34 GTR come stock HID on reflector housing, and not all HID installed on reflector housing will spills half of them on the air, most of the reflector houisng come with the little reflecting cap will able to control the reflection of the light. but they still dont have a clear cut off line, and some of the beam pattern are still uncontroable. but unlike if you put HID in some BMW that runing H7 on a reflector housing, since they dont have the little reflecting cap comes with, they do spill half of them on the air, when facing against a wall the beam pattern looks like a big circles....

**aaronng** · 13-11-2007 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by applio

not 100% ture, if you had a projector housing, you still got the clear cut off line, you just dont got the autoleveling system, but you can manuel adjusting it, and also not the wash system!

some OEM HID are come in reflector houisng too, the r34 GTR come stock HID on reflector housing, and not all HID installed on reflector housing will spills half of them on the air, most of the reflector houisng come with the little reflecting cap will able to control the reflection of the light. but they still dont have a clear cut off line, and some of the beam pattern are still uncontroable. but unlike if you put HID in some BMW that runing H7 on a reflector housing, since they dont have the little reflecting cap comes with, they do spill half of them on the air, when facing against a wall the beam pattern looks like a big circles....

I'm not talking about something as simple as projectors and reflectors. In a projector housing, the lens focal length and distance from the bulb is calculated for a halogen bulb. When you put a HID kit in, the focal length and distance is no longer suitable for the light source. Go pull out the headlights from the base and the lux Euro, they have differences in terms of the distance between the lens and the back of the housing.

**applio** · 13-11-2007 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

I'm not talking about something as simple as projectors and reflectors. In a projector housing, the lens focal length and distance from the bulb is calculated for a halogen bulb. When you put a HID kit in, the focal length and distance is no longer suitable for the light source. Go pull out the headlights from the base and the lux Euro, they have differences in terms of the distance between the lens and the back of the housing.

there are screw in the housing for you the adjust the distance up down and wide for the light level

**aaronng** · 13-11-2007 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by applio

there are screw in the housing for you the adjust the distance up down and wide for the light level

I'm not talking about how high/low or wide/narrow the light is. I'm talking about the focal point. The focal point should be at the point where the bulb's brightest spot is, so that it can project a good coherent beam all the way from near to "infinity" on the other side of the lens.

Bulb brightest point at "f" will project a beam that doesn't converge nor diverge:

**applio** · 13-11-2007 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

I'm not talking about how high/low or wide/narrow the light is. I'm talking about the focal point. The focal point should be at the point where the bulb's brightest spot is, so that it can project a good coherent beam all the way from near to "infinity" on the other side of the lens.

Bulb brightest point at "f" will project a beam that doesn't converge nor diverge:

i know is not perfect, but they still better than the reflector!

and the srew is for you the adjust the light to close to the "f" point!

**EUR003act** · 13-11-2007 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by applio

i know is not perfect, but they still better than the reflector!

and the srew is for you the adjust the light to close to the "f" point!

i have never seen an aftermarket HID kit with a focusing screw! every single (ive seen alot!) replacement HID ive ever seen (ie: H4, H1, H3, etc..) has always had the "arc" in a different place the the stock filament... always... doesnt matter whether its a reflector or projector style globe, with the focus point is in a different place to what the housing was designed for you'll get alot of spill and so called "hot spots"

as you can see in the pic below (from my old car) the HID doesnt have the same definition in its pattern, its alot rounder, and theres alot more "glare"